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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1464057)
Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000. To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time. What are you laughing about? On time? A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress. But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story. |
Flying is not a right. The traveling public has to get the notion out of their heads that they DESERVE inexpensive, safe travel. It costs money to fly. The last 10 years we(airline employees) subsidized their cheap family vacations.
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1464057)
Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000. To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time. What are you laughing about? On time? A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress. But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story. |
Originally Posted by Columbia
(Post 1464001)
And ATL-DCA is $751.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1464067)
Does submitting a yellow slip to fly still only reduce your RAW score by 15 or did that change? Thanks,
Denny No, actually it will only affect your RAW if you are awarded a trip. And of course a yellow slip means they can assign you anything they want. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1464057)
Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000. To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time. What are you laughing about? On time? A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress. But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1464067)
Does submitting a yellow slip to fly still only reduce your RAW score by 15 or did that change? Thanks,
Denny |
The cost is not just gas. The gov mileage rate is north of $.45/mile. That is depreciation, maintenance, etc. A better comparison would be a taxi service. Professional transportation, government certified with commercial vehicle,etc. Plus add travel time; how valuable is your time (or your employees) in spending their time on the road versus flying. Much better comparison.
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1464177)
I was probably a little over the top with the gas thing.... but... a family of 4 isn't gonna pay that ticket price either. More than likely they are gonna buy their tickets a few weeks or months out and get considerably lower fares.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1464177)
I was probably a little over the top with the gas thing.... but... a family of 4 isn't gonna pay that ticket price either. More than likely they are gonna buy their tickets a few weeks or months out and get considerably lower fares.
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Originally Posted by MD88Driver
(Post 1464252)
The cost is not just gas. The gov mileage rate is north of $.45/mile. That is depreciation, maintenance, etc. A better comparison would be a taxi service. Professional transportation, government certified with commercial vehicle,etc. Plus add travel time; how valuable is your time (or your employees) in spending their time on the road versus flying. Much better comparison.
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you know before I throw another log on the fire on this frosty mid August evening in Atlanta, I was thinking.... I heard that slow...
but I was thinking on a rather serious note there sure is a lot of layoffs going on with people I know personally. theyre told its economy related. makes me wonder if the delay in hiring and then the smaller number than we all hoped for not to mention the rumored strong response from recallees is a subtle indicator? |
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