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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1473738)
Nobody that I've ever spoken to or whose words I've read has ever stated their support for decertifying ALPA was because of anything Mr. Caplinger has ever said. It's been for any number of various reasons experienced by each individual personally.
Since you've mentioned offensiveness, you should realize that by your comments above, you're stating your belief that thousands of your fellow pilots have signed DPA cards to avenge harm done to Mr. Caplinger. Carl That's sure to unite the pilot group. :eek: |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1473768)
I believe this is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1473773)
Nope. That's what it was sold as, but the first measurement period isn't until January.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters. |
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1473778)
Negatory, good buddy.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1473787)
No. That's what the cntract states. Please reference me to where in our contract it states that the company may take delivery of 76 seaters over 153 before taking delivery of 1.25 717s.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters. Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today: Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware |
I'll give you guys a nudge. Sec 1.46.f exception 1
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1473797)
Sorry, first measurement period isn't until January. Yet another loophole tht was neglected to be effectively communicated during the sales job.
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today: Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware |
I think Johnson might be right on this but it should definitely be resolved.
Once again referencing Negotiators Notepad 5-12: Delivery of additional 76-seat aircraft is prohibited until SNB aircraft are first added to the mainline fleet, and then, a simultaneous reduction of 50-seat aircraft is required. This is an event-based process and not time or date-based. As Delta implements their business plan and adds more SNBs, only then may they add more 76-seat aircraft, while also removing 50-seat aircraft. Once a 50-seat aircraft is removed, the number of allowable 50-seat aircraft is capped at that level until the next removal and so on. That cap can then never increase. Event based with no date attached. I looked in the Live Contract but could not find this - I did see the 2014 date mentioned with Block hour ratios but not in regard to small NB vs. additional 76 seaters. Scoop |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1473799)
You still haven't proven anything. Where's the language? Didn't 9e return 16 CRJ900s to a lessor in BK?
Those 900s are still flying in DL colors... I believe for Expressjet. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1473801)
I'll find the chapter and verse. I only found out about it today discussing the 717 delays with my rep.
Those 900s are still flying in DL colors... I believe for Expressjet.
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1473798)
I'll give you guys a nudge. Sec 1.46.f exception 1
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry. |
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