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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1470452)
Really?
The union is not Santa Claus. It doesn't "give" us anything. Our hard work and dues money enable programs such as that. They are not gifts from a generous ALPA. But they will be from the doughnut holes, right? Or is SOMEBODY going to have to pay for them? Who would that be? |
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1470457)
The era of big mergers and the possibility of foreign ownership may be over. People see that as a thinly veiled attempt to reduce capacity and increase the price of flying. Any politician that supports it will be looked at as being in the pocket of big business. The era of capacity restraint will be coming to an end IMO and along it with a huge demand from the public that looks at flying as a right. That demand won't be filled by foreign airlines flying in the US. Too big a reach for a still very patriotic nation. It will be filled by massive growth from the big airlines as well as Spirit, Allegient and others who provide low cost service.
I think the demand for pilots will be there and it will be satisfied when prospective pilots see the rewards of the career as worth the massive effort it takes to get there. AMR and LCC will eventually merge. All that has changed is the price of admission. |
Put a big bullseye on Delta Air Lines.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1470175)
That's what I was telling shiznit the other day. That train is just about out of the tunnel- they may be getting serious too late, though. We may very well be going through a vote within a year.
My questions: 1) Why won't he or DALPA admit they fouled up on this and many other aspects of the contract? Why can't they accept responsibility? 2) Where was the vaunted "ALPA legal team" we keep hearing about as an upside of being in ALPA? How would any lawyer worth a damn permit a loophole big enough to fly an Air France A380 through? What on earth are we paying for, if our legal team will sign off on language like this?? |
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1470457)
That demand won't be filled by foreign airlines flying in the US. Too big a reach for a still very patriotic nation. It will be filled by massive growth from the big airlines as well as Spirit, Allegient and others who provide low cost service.
America was perhaps more patriotic after WWII than now, but look at the dismantling of the US merchant marine. Big business wants it cheaper, non union, no pesky govt regulations. John Q. Public will buy a ticket on Al Queda Air if it's 5 bucks cheaper. |
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1470500)
Over on the DALPA forum, the guy who negotiated the "improved" sick leave policy has been flailing. Incredibly defensive, blaming the company for abusing the "intent" of the "good faith" clause, lashing out at guys for calling out the contract language.
My questions: 1) Why won't he or DALPA admit they fouled up on this and many other aspects of the contract? Why can't they accept responsibility? 2) Where was the vaunted "ALPA legal team" we keep hearing about as an upside of being in ALPA? How would any lawyer worth a damn permit a loophole big enough to fly an Air France A380 through? What on earth are we paying for, if our legal team will sign off on language like this?? |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1470444)
We've been hearing about a "looming pilot shortage" for 20+ years. It hasn't materialized yet. If it ever does, there are PLENTY of ways to deal with it. While you'd like management's answer to be higher pay (and so would I), that's just pure fantasy.
There are many ways to reduce demand for new pilots. Mergers, JVs, foreign ownership, cabotage, productivity, changes (or elimination entirely) of the retirement age, changes in FARs, and so on. It's already happened and will continue to happen even more. As to the supply side, at last check we share the planet with over 7 BILLION other folks. I'm sure enough can be found to fill the coming "pilot shortage." If you are tying your hopes and dreams of a larger paycheck on supply/demand, you are going to be very disappointed. DAL reported over $1B in profits last year and is projected to be even more profitable this year. All the while we're still paid LESS $ than rates negotiated a DECADE ago! |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1470420)
These reasons are EXACTLY why we have the PAN, or Pilot Assistance Network. If someone is dealing with these issues, & feels unfit to fly then that person should have ZERO hesitation to call in sick. Then immediately follow that with a call to the PAN. Utilize the resources your union gives you.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1470473)
Maybe. Government is continually throwing roadblocks in the way of businesses trying to do business. And business can usually find... eventually... some kind of workaround. This will be no different, and yes there will be politicians that will be bought. THAT is the American way. We have a corrupt government, and when presented with a little walkin' around money, or trip to the Bahamas, or a new gold car....they will vote your way. All of 'em.
AMR and LCC will eventually merge. All that has changed is the price of admission. |
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 1470483)
Put a big bullseye on Delta Air Lines.
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