Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1477240)

Isn't that the same guy who wanted us to believe Delta would start hiring in December...of 2012...if we just voted "yes?"

So I think I'll wait to count these chickens for a while.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1477213)

Close. Over Minnesota. :D

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1477142)

Really? Here on APC? Now, with a new aircraft order, DPA vs. DALPA, UAL SLI, and pay banding for a future merger to discuss? [EDIT] Plus, isn't Timbo a hater? [End Edit] Come on, Carl. Give it a rest. :D

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1477130)

FAA JSer: 717 interior certification is a disaster.

before you blame the FAA just know they already blame the sequester.

Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1477262)

Trying to expedite your way to the Tool Closet?

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1477189)

Memo from Steve Dickson, with good sounding words. This makes me optimistic:

"As I told the pilots in the lounge today, these are growth aircraft and they will increase our pilot staffing needs over the next several years. Stay tuned for more details. In the meantime, we expect to post an Advance Entitlement bid this week that will contain new narrowbody captain positions and we'll continue to post a series of small AEs for the foreseeable future as we take deliveries of the 717 and 737-900."

Let's hear some guesses/predictions on what will be on the AE for numbers, both for ER B reductions and for vacancies?

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1477274)

How long?

Again, it came with seats. Make some blue covers. Lets go fly.

Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1477276)

First off.....Steve Dickson regularly misrepresents the truth to make the pilot group feel good. So his credibility is suspect at best.

As far as the ER B displacements... I will go with 100 more system wide. no backfill on Capt's that change positions and that another 20 guys will be MD ed off of the SLC 737 B.

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1477256)

I agree. Since I started (granted, not that long ago relatively speaking), there has never once been a truthful bit of good news without a request for concession. It usually comes with the news, or slightly thereafter. So although its nice to read something that sounds positive, I cannot help but wonder what the request will be.

- Atlantic JV?
- Narita flying?
- Even more big RJs?
- Further cuts to profit sharing?

Any guesses?

Originally Posted by hitimefurl (Post 1477092)

I'm not sure what Kingsley has to do with any of this or your hyperbolic statements but if they aren't facts you should be able to disprove at least one?

The DPA Constitution is effective upon certification.



As written it can't be changed after certification without voting, in other words this is final if the ball drops tomorrow.

• DPA announces dues will be lowered to anywhere between 1%-1.75% depending on where you read the website yet the constitution says they will go up without MEMRAT to 2.25% next year. ALPA can't raise dues today without a vote.

Dues:

• They say that FPL is bad yet they increased FPL for all volunteers including those that don't get FPL like that today over today's limits and pay for it out of the budget since they will take that money value assigned to the contract and spread it amongst the pilots. No, wait, make that the reps as the FPL is going up the money would go to them not the CBA.

Salaries and Expenses:

• USAPA payed over $7 million in legal fees to SSM&P in less than 4 years after the vote. SSMP&P is charging 50% of their $250 fee, per their contract, with the rest outstanding after certification, yet the DPA has mysteriously paid a number so small that it can only be called incidental costs from the DPA logs. Where's the legal bill?

DPA finances behind firewall.

USAPSA v SSM&P S.D.N.Y 7:12-cv-01981-ER

• There's a second law firm on the DPA books that has charged more to the DPA than SSM&P so far. How could that be possible?

DPA finances behind firewall

• New hires, pilots returning from disability and MILOA can't be reps for 2 years, nor could a pilot from a merged airline because of the 2 year good standing rule

Eligibility:

• New hires have to pay a maintenance fee their first year. Not about money, right?

Assessments:

• Look through the USAPA LM2 and see the 6 figure employees they have. You want to know why? That's what good help costs today.

Ray, James Communication Comm $120,962 LM-2

• "A contract which is understandable, enforceable and beneficial to both parties and should not exceed 200 pages." Really? Beneficial to the company? An iron clad 200 pages?

DPA Issues Contract Opening Statement

• Voting on everything and everybody. Where will you find the time?

Really, where will you get the time?

• 25% of the pilots in a block to get a resolution passed vs simply majority at an LEC today? Harder to use the pilots will.

Petition Procedures

You don't want to do the work to change ALPA and you don't want to do the work to discuss the DPA constitution in spite of being shown facts you continue to attack the messenger.