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Boomer 02-10-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1578522)
8 wrong airport landings out of over 100 million flights over the last decade. It's an epidemic!

But in those 100 million flights, how many takeoffs from the wrong airport?

I thought so.

80ktsClamp 02-10-2014 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Beer Man (Post 1578638)
Am I the only one who wants to reply to the "critical flight ops updates" and tell SD that nobody outside of Atlanta gives a crap about the weather there? Guess what SD, it snows in a lot of places in the country and I don't see an "update" every time it snows in MSP or SLC

/rant

ATL is the center of all truth, knowledge, and light. Deal with it. ;)

The reality is, that's the world's largest hub but has very limited snow removal/deice capability. Combine those two factors and you send a major ripple effect through the entire system. Then add in limited snow removal capability in the town which can keep people from getting to work to support the operation, and you have a very critical situation.

buzzpat 02-10-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1578651)
ATL is the center of all truth, knowledge, and light. Deal with it. ;)

The reality is, that's the world's largest hub but has very limited snow removal/deice capability. Combine those two factors and you send a major ripple effect through the entire system. Then add in limited snow removal capability in the town which can keep people from getting to work to support the operation, and you have a very critical situation.

^^^^^

To use a baseball analogy, if you're #3 or 4 reliever has a sore arm and has to sit out a day....you still have Mariano Rivera.

When Mariano's down, you play small ball. It's not snowfall = snowfall? ATL is Yankee Stadium. More home runs are hit there, for Delta. When they get rained out, sucks for all of us. Comparing ATL to MSP or DTW is frankly ignorant.

Timbo 02-10-2014 06:28 PM

What has always amazed me about ATL and snow is, every year, they get at least one or two snow days. And every year, they pretend like it's never happened before, and they have no idea how to deal with it!

Yet every year, it happens.

And every year, it's like it's the first time it's ever happened in ATL.

I used to care, I used to ask a lot of questions like, "Why don't you buy a couple PLOW TRUCKS??" Or why don't you put some Salt on the Roads??

The answer I kept getting was, "Well, it only happens once a year, so we are not going to spend the money on it. Much easier/cheaper to just shut everything down for 24-48 hours, wait for it to melt, start it up again.

The other problem is, even if Delta and ATL Airport did buy enough snow removal equipment, the city of ATL won't spend the money on it, so the equipment operators won't be able to get to the airport to operate the equipment...

If the gate agents, fuelers, mechanics, rampers, deice crews and everyone else can't get to the airport, because the City of ATL, or the Governor of GA won't spend the money on equipment to keep the roads open, then what's the point of trying to operate airplanes?

Alan Shore 02-10-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1577778)
Anyone know for certain if I say "else next bid group" does it go to Reduced lower limit (if I select it) or if next bid group is always a reserve bid?

After a bid group in which you have Else Start Next or Clear Schedule and Start Next, you may only have another normal Pairings bid group or a Reserve bid group. An RLL bid group can only come after a bid group with no Start Next command.

buzzpat 02-10-2014 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Beer Man (Post 1578638)
Am I the only one who wants to reply to the "critical flight ops updates" and tell SD that nobody outside of Atlanta gives a crap about the weather there? Guess what SD, it snows in a lot of places in the country and I don't see an "update" every time it snows in MSP or SLC

/rant

That's why SD sends out critical updates and you don't. Snow doesn't really equal snow doesn't equal freezing rain...just as ATL doesn't equal MSP doesn't equal SLC.

C'mon Beer! I'm LA and I totally understand how two inches in ATL affects LA. Or SLC? Or MSP?

PS Tell MSP to chip that ice **** off the taxiways and parking spots.

galaxy flyer 02-10-2014 06:43 PM

boomer

If there were 8 landings at "wrong" airports; I'd hope there were 8 take-offs at wrong airport! Or did some line leave a plane behind.

GF

80ktsClamp 02-10-2014 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1578667)
boomer

If there were 8 landings at "wrong" airports; I'd hope there were 8 take-offs at wrong airport! Or did some line leave a plane behind.

GF

Well, if they did take off, it was from their intended airport to takeoff from. :)

LeineLodge 02-10-2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1578661)
What has always amazed me about ATL and snow is, every year, they get at least one or two snow days. And every year, they pretend like it's never happened before, and they have no idea how to deal with it!

Yet every year, it happens.

And every year, it's like it's the first time it's ever happened in ATL.

I used to care, I used to ask a lot of questions like, "Why don't you buy a couple PLOW TRUCKS??" Or why don't you put some Salt on the Roads??

The answer I kept getting was, "Well, it only happens once a year, so we are not going to spend the money on it. Much easier/cheaper to just shut everything down for 24-48 hours, wait for it to melt, start it up again.

The other problem is, even if Delta and ATL Airport did buy enough snow removal equipment, the city of ATL won't spend the money on it, so the equipment operators won't be able to get to the airport to operate the equipment...

If the gate agents, fuelers, mechanics, rampers, deice crews and everyone else can't get to the airport, because the City of ATL, or the Governor of GA won't spend the money on equipment to keep the roads open, then what's the point of trying to operate airplanes?

I seem to remember UPS used to pay to have some of the major thoroughfares in SDF cleared to ensure their people could get to the sort. I could be confusing the details since its been several years, but Delta might do well to fund a plow from PTC/Newnan to the airport. Offer a little premium pay and you could get half of the employees to work to keep the operation running???

Timbo 02-10-2014 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1578673)
I seem to remember UPS used to pay to have some of the major thoroughfares in SDF cleared to ensure their people could get to the sort. I could be confusing the details since its been several years, but Delta might do well to fund a plow from PTC/Newnan to the airport. Offer a little premium pay and you could get half of the employees to work to keep the operation running???

What they have done in the past is to keep all the employees on site overnight, as in; don't let them go home.

They've taken up motel rooms all up and down VA Ave. and even slept in the airplanes at the gate, the ones with lie flat seats, for the essential workers, so they can get them back to the airport in the morning.

Sounds like a quite a party! :eek:


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