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Old 09-03-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Alright time for a change.

Got the LEC 44 Ballot today, it is already filled out and in the mail!
Amen brother! Looking forward to receiving my council 20 ballot.

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Old 09-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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I can't wait to do the same.

By the way, where the heck is Carl and uncle Ferd?
September is gopher breeding season. I've been busy!

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
I posted Virgin Blue had entered the LAX-SYD market. It was actually Virgin Australia. Not sure the difference between the two however.
There isn't much of a difference. It's the international part of the Virgin Blue group. Technically, you were correct either way.

Virgin Blue V Australia
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post

So, I'm hearing rumors of an airplane order in October. Anyone? Anyone?
CRJ-1000s.

Or 737s. I think we'll order more of those because thanks to the 787 I bet they're going to be a good deal for Delta.
Or A320s. I think Airbus knows Boeing will offer a good deal and they'll match it.
Or A330s. Because some white tails evidently are hanging out somewhere.
Or 777s. Because CAL just cancelled two.
Or 748s. Just because someone knows the value of being a bad ass.
Or MD90s. They're finally coming because we stole them or because of the 787 we bought the rights to produce them ourselves at the TOC.
Or E190s. Just to try it.
Or we go to VCV...


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Old 09-03-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Alright time for a change.

Got the LEC 44 Ballot today, it is already filled out and in the mail!
I would just advise one caution. The last great hope for council 44 was a senior 767-400 captain that preached fire and brimstone and won the votes of many a junior pilot (or at least they said so). It turns out that he was in office for about 1.2 seconds before he proclaimed that the junior pilots had things too good and the senior pilots needed to get lots more consideration.

Making empty promises is about the easiest thing in the world to do. I promise to fix scope, I promise to give you a big pay raise, I promise to restore our pension. Wow, that was easy. Saying and doing or two different things.

I would look to see who has the experience and a plan to accomplish their goals. Saying "no" is not a strategy, words are great but accomplishments mean everything.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
I didn't know that Virgin Blue (an Australian carrier) had foreign ownership issues, at least not with respect to Australia. Are you saying the DOT was questionning Blue's Australian citizenship, WRT to flying rights to the US as an Australian carrier?

Or are we getting our virgins confused?
No it was something that was written about Virgin Blue about a month ago. There were some route authorities that required a majority of the shares remain domestic. Same thing we have here. I will try and find the article, but it was just a sentence or two.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
September is gopher breeding season. I've been busy!

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Hey, is there a snow balls chance in Los Angeles County that we as lowly MD88 slumdogs might get to partcipate in some MSP flying and see the mythical west coast? Just to see if it really exists.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo View Post
I would just advise one caution. The last great hope for council 44 was a senior 767-400 captain that preached fire and brimstone and won the votes of many a junior pilot (or at least they said so). It turns out that he was in office for about 1.2 seconds before he proclaimed that the junior pilots had things too good and the senior pilots needed to get lots more consideration.

Making empty promises is about the easiest thing in the world to do. I promise to fix scope, I promise to give you a big pay raise, I promise to restore our pension. Wow, that was easy. Saying and doing or two different things.

I would look to see who has the experience and a plan to accomplish their goals. Saying "no" is not a strategy, words are great but accomplishments mean everything.
I agree, and I do not think anyone is looking at or for someone that is promising anything but decent representation of the LEC 44 pilots. I do not see anybody that is "promising" anything.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:06 PM
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The Sep Delta N bid is posted. Looks like 96 Captains and 233 total bids. Same number of displacements of the 742.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp View Post
I'll be ok if the status quo prevails. Even with the elimination of the 50s, I'm senior enough to stay a captain for a while. And most likely SkyWest/ASA isn't going out of business with 800 million cash in the bank. We'll just find other flying outside of the DAL family or even buy someone. I'm not worried. Maybe I'll even leave the industry. I have lots of options.

How will you hold up with DAL continuing to outsource to the lowest cost providers? Your biggest threat is the Mesas, Colgans, and Go Jets of the world. Now's your big chance to take ALL scope back in house. Sounds like you guys have a lot more to gain than we have to lose.
Yes, because the RFP's for 50 seat flying are just flowing like crazy.

Funny how you say our biggest threats are places like Colgan, Mesa, etc & you are confident that ASA would just find more flying outside of the DAL family even with the higher costs of ASA.

So with next to zero RFPs for 50 seat flying out there, & the 50 seater quickly dying, I'm not so sure the bottom feeders are more of a threat to DAL mainline then they are to ASA.

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