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Old 09-25-2013 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I'd like to hear a reasonable, fact based argument that proves his claim. I've yet to see one from anyone. I've seen opinion and claims from one side, and I've seen factual numbers from the other.

I've never claimed ALPA to be perfect, and I've never claimed that they're infallible. ALPA has it's wrongs, but I still haven't been convinced that the alternative is anymore then a "might be" or "hope it's better" option.
I'm not trying to talk about the alternative. Just when you read the loa, ask yourself "is that true?" On each sentence and thought.
Old 09-25-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Not commenting on the LOA per se, but block hours are absolutely no indicator of net pilot jobs required. It takes far fewer pilots to fly US-Pacific point-to-point than to man the NRT hub.

And the race to a 9,000 pilot airline continues...
How'd those pilots get to NRT?
How many pilots to fly from NRT-SPN, or Gua, or HNL?
How many pilots does it take to over fly NRT?

85% vs 54%
Old 09-25-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
How'd those pilots get to NRT?
How many pilots to fly from NRT-SPN, or Gua, or HNL?
How many pilots does it take to over fly NRT?

85% vs 54%
They flew.
2,2,2
4

Those are apple/orange ratios.
Old 09-25-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Forget it..

Johnso29 wants hard numbers that don't exist (we have to pass to LOA to find out what's in the LOA) and I'm trying to argue that this LOA represents a fundamental change to our union's scope philosophy that's going to continue to bite us in the ass for the rest of our careers. I'll be back this weekend. At this point, my main worry is that my DVR doesn't have the space to keep up with my absence from the 61 hour Breaking Bad marathon.

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Old 09-25-2013 | 07:44 PM
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Any 717 drivers have problems with the VFD thumb drive not working? It worked once now it says cfg file missing but everything is there.
Old 09-25-2013 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Any 717 drivers have problems with the VFD thumb drive not working? It worked once now it says cfg file missing but everything is there.
What's a VFD? Come to think of it, what's a 717?
Old 09-25-2013 | 07:54 PM
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I still can't believe something as significant as this LOA isn't being put out for memrat. That is terrible.

Less than pleased with the 85% thing, too... I'm interested to see the document promoting... er...marketing...er... giving me details on it.
Old 09-25-2013 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I still can't believe something as significant as this LOA isn't being put out for memrat. That is terrible.

Less than pleased with the 85% thing, too... I'm interested to see the document promoting... er...marketing...er... giving me details on it.
It was in my email inbox 5.5 hours ago. I decided I was underwhelmed roughly 5.3 hours ago.

Need a copy?
Old 09-25-2013 | 08:01 PM
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I think it is about time we modify ALPA's policy manual to say that any modification to section one of a contract must be put to a MEMRAT. No more LOAs with scope implications without OUR consent.
Old 09-25-2013 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
What's a VFD? Come to think of it, what's a 717?
VFD = Very Frustrating Device.

Goes along with the systems thumb drive I was sent that was empty, which fine, I wasn't supposed to get a systems "CD".
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