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Josephus 11-14-2013 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1519509)
I've got to stop you right there.…

I think you missed my point. There is no "Of course the federal government should protect unalienable rights.," like you say. The only thing there is, is that the federal government can't pass laws that violate our unalienable rights.

Take a look at the Bill of Rights then take a look at your example of the 14th Amendment. There is a big difference. None of the Bill of Rights specifically state that the States themselves can't pass laws that restrict unalienable rights. The first 10 Amendments talk about what Congress can't do and what the federal government can't do, but not the States. But, look at the 14th Amendment. It specifically states that States can't do a number of things.

If you are a textualist, and you want the federal government to stay within the frame of what the Constitution specifically states it can do, you cannot be for the Supreme Court incorporating any parts of fundamental rights the Bill of Rights enumerates to have to apply to the States. Why? Because it's not written anywhere in the Bill of Rights, or anywhere else in the Constitution.

Simply put, the Constitution does not say the States can't pass laws that infringe against fundamental rights. The Constitution does not say the federal government has to protect citizens against states that pass laws that pass laws that infringe on our fundamental rights. The Constitution only says that the federal government cannot pass laws that violate the Bill of Rights.

Without the Supreme Court going outside the framework of the Constitution, the ban on handguns in Chicago would stand because it's a state law and there is nothing in the Constitution that specifically gives the Court the power to override State law when it comes to the 2nd Amendment like it does with the 14th Amendment.

It seems as though you want the Supreme Court to protect our unalienable rights that are in the Bill of Rights. But, by your own standard, it's judicial activism.

I think that's your paradox


P.S. The U.S. Constitution is superior to federal law.

A great point that is rarely made....

For example, for many years after the Constitution was ratified, individual States had a "state religion". There was no conflict with the 1st Amendment because it doesn't apply to the states.

Most of us don't like it, but Utah could have Mormanism as their state religion, Texas could be Baptist, California could be Hindu, and NY and Illinois could ban every gun.

It's a different, but much clearer way of understanding the government our Founders gave us-Federalism.

The Radical Republicans and Whigs of the 19th Century got us a little confused about that.

Back to slot discussions.......

newKnow 11-14-2013 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Josephus (Post 1519781)
A great point that is rarely made....

For example, for many years after the Constitution was ratified, individual States had a "state religion". There was no conflict with the 1st Amendment because it doesn't apply to the states.

Most of us don't like it, but Utah could have Mormanism as their state religion, Texas could be Baptist, California could be Hindu, and NY and Illinois could ban every gun.

It's a different, but much clearer way of understanding the government our Founders gave us-Federalism.

The Radical Republicans and Whigs of the 19th Century got us a little confused about that.

Back to slot discussions.......

Welcome to the paper chase. I think Scambo is going to beat us with a stick. :D

Josephus 11-14-2013 06:50 AM

Uh oh! I'm sure ill be welcomed with open arms!:eek:

scambo1 11-14-2013 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1519784)
Welcome to the paper chase. I think Scambo is going to beat us with a stick. :D

No, that used to be my favorite show. There was a short time that I thought I should go to Law School. I got accepted by Columbia and then decided that wasn't for me. For me, I made the right choice.

TenYearsGone 11-14-2013 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by One Taco (Post 1519737)
Well, you have got to give them this. Our boys know how to play in the present "deregulated" environment with such levels of govt interference in commerce and enterprise. This just makes me laugh.

Delta Plans Expansion at Dallas Love Field - Yahoo Finance

Shot across the bow!! Now lets go get the NY and LA slots.

TEN

newKnow 11-14-2013 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1519804)
No, that used to be my favorite show. There was a short time that I thought I should go to Law School. I got accepted by Columbia and then decided that wasn't for me. For me, I made the right choice.

Great school! You must be one of those smart guys.

Hey! It's not too late to go. In fact, you might be able to finish by the time the December bid results come out. :D

Sink r8 11-14-2013 07:26 AM

When does the bidding close for that, anyway?

TenYearsGone 11-14-2013 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1519804)
No, that used to be my favorite show. There was a short time that I thought I should go to Law School. I got accepted by Columbia and then decided that wasn't for me. For me, I made the right choice.

Scambo, go get your law degree and come back. Ill vote for you-->Negotiating committee ;)

TEN

scambo1 11-14-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1519822)
Great school! You must be one of those smart guys.

Hey! It's not too late to go. In fact, you might be able to finish by the time the December bid results come out. :D

I'd rather go to welding school or sheet metal fabrication school.

Kinda funny story on law school. Someday if I ever meet you, I'll tell it to you. Not my proudest moment.

TenYearsGone 11-14-2013 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1519829)
I'd rather go to welding school or sheet metal fabrication school.

Kinda funny story on law school. Someday if I ever meet you, I'll tell it to you. Not my proudest moment.

Ok, those schools might help you become the BEST MEC chairman we have ever had. Ill still vote for you!

TEN


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