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It was a good post.

Same invitation to you, what is your Contract 2015 proposal?

... and please publish your opener, counter proposals, and what you'll settle for ... or are all of these the exact same number?

For argument's sake, I'll publish mine .... "My Negotiating Committee speaks for me, I have given them my authorization to call a strike understanding that this is in effect handing them my resignation to use as they see fit if management is unwilling to reach a deal."

I'll publish mine:

A pilot contract that leads the airline industry in every measurable metric. Even if only by a small margin, but Delta pilots must lead it. Why? Because Delta leads the industry financially and operationally. Why is that? Because of pilot sacrifices and pilot operational excellence.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-17-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 1521912)

Actually, Delta wanted belligerent pilots who would strike over a flat tire, but another carrier had already hired them. ;)

Now THAT is funny!

Carl

Dorfman

11-17-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1521484)

Carl, when were you hired at Nwa? Not specific class date but range. 79-81 or 83-85 timeframe? Also, were you part of the terrible 20(Tanksley's lawsuit)in any form? Active participant, silent contributor, etc).

Carl,

I am with NERD, I am wondering if you were part of the Tanksley lawsuit on any form?

Starcheck102

11-17-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1521883)

Didn't HR 3488 die?

H.R.3488 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): To establish the conditions under which the Secretary of Homeland Security may establish preclearance facilities, conduct preclearance operations, and provide customs services outside the United States, and for

Please engage your elected officials on this. We can't stop them from buying fleets of wide body aircraft that clearly aren't supported by their demographics, but we can ensure that our government works on behalf of the citizens who pay its bills.

Launchpad475

11-17-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 1521912)

Actually, Delta wanted belligerent pilots who would strike over a flat tire, but another carrier had already hired them. ;)

That just made me LOL, is there a button for that?

Carl Spackler

11-17-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1521776)

The ME airline issue is purely a Washington issue. America has been for sale since the Declaration of Independence was signed.

I don't hold much hope on ALPA influencing that. Do you?

I'm not saying this isn't an important issue, but man are we ever ignoring the far more serious problems.

First, we've outsourced OVER 50% of Delta branded flying. ALPA national refuses to even discuss that even though it's a huge threat to the majors and something not even wanted by the regional pilots.

Second, the RLA protects railroads from having their contracts gutted in a bankruptcy. Airline labor is excluded from THAT portion of the RLA, but included in all the rest. Like being stuck with the NMB before we can strike, etc. We have the worst of all worlds now by having the threat of bankruptcy taking 50% or more from us in one bite, but then have to fight getting that 50% back due to the NMB's interference. This is the biggest threat of all, and again, ALPA is completely silent on the issue. Not a single word. No attempt at all to either make airlines totally part of the RLA, or remove us from it completely.

IMO, our priorities are completely f'd up.

Carl

scambo1

11-17-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1521923)

You see, it's the last part of your final sentence where you're losing me...:confused:

Carl Spackler

11-17-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1521863)

Oh so now you are engaging in a "discussion". Alinsky, secret police, apologists... yeah. You are a real piece of work "captain".

Unintelligible.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1521863)

I almost forgot that most DAL pilots were hired because they would never, ever consider striking against mother Delta.

Again, quote where I have ever said that? If you don't know how to use the quote button, I'll help you.

Same with your new signature...where did I ever say that?

Carl

TOGA LK

11-17-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1521931)

You see, it's the last part of your final sentence where you're losing me...:confused:

Lol. Agree. We the people don't pay the bills, we have the Berbanke and the Printer in Chief for that.

scambo1

11-17-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1521936)

Lol. Agree. We the people don't pay the bills, we have the Berbanke and the Printer in Chief for that.

Almost every word in that sentence fragment was debate able.