ATL 320 CAs breaking $300K this year. That's how short. :eek:

No harm, I'm sure.

We're all still coming to terms with the ramifications of our givebacks under C12.

I just looked at the last AE and it doesn't look like it.

How deep into the category is that earning going?

Check this out:


launch abort fuel for the Dragon capsule used for powered descent and spot landing...

And it doesn't hurt SpeceX rocks out to Muse*



(makes parachuting into saltwater seem rather quaint)

Cheers
George

* And of course Total Ghost: "If NASA says No we will do it on our own we'll build our own rocket and we'll go to space alone"

It was one helluva concession but we can't blame this one on C2012.

This vacation sellback language came in during bankruptcy.
Specifically Letter 51 (2006).

Our contract was gutted in a lot of ways in Letters 46 and 51.
We'll probably never get most of that stuff back.

Just my opinion, but I think the biggest concession we gave in C2012 was another stealthy one that will end up being permanent. The impact was way under-estimated and we will never get it back.
That is ===> making July and August into 30 day months.

The only thing that compares was accepting the bankruptcy pay rates as the new normal.
The insulting COLA 4-8-3-3 is at least something we can still chip away at though.

No doubt that is true. Don't forget that $300k captain is doing the work of 2 captains and that is why the progression is so slow.

The goal is to increase our pay so that captain can make $300K in 75 hours and have a life.

I sincerely hope no one bites on this vacation buyback. NWA had the ability to cancel vacation...this "voluntary liquidation" is bad enough. The company made a conscious decision not to hire/upgrade/backfill (despite being advised to the contrary). There should be some consequence to their ill advised delay in proper staffing. Again...I hope those considering this will think long and hard before doing so.

If you were senior enough at FedEx and could hold it off they would have some sort of a "corporate emergency OmigodhowarewegoingtodeliverallthisstuffbyChristma s" panic attack and start throwing money at pilots from every office window in Memphis if they would come in and fly in late December.

Since my father still gets a retirement check, I'll just leave that there. But, it was 2 and 1/2 time normal pay for vacation buy back, if I recall correctly.

Just an opinion, but economically it appears likely that if we support this at normal pay, it will become normal operations and fewer pilots will be hired, or upgrade. To paraphrase Lee Moak, or was it Tim O'Malley, "nothing says we appreciate your effort like cash."

Like flying high time with guys on furlough, we will always have those who will take this deal.

I hope I am wrong, but I see this vacation liquidation as something management will use system wide as the retirements hit. It will become normal ops. If used across the board, it will slow progression big time and reduce green slips.

Hopefully there is language limiting its use.