Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1535577)

Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1534962)

I would expect immediate clarification from DALPA on whether we are obligate to acknowledge within 2 hours or not. And if we choose to follow the contract, what the ramifications will be

Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1535028)

If we kept the ability to keep the phone off for 9 hours at anytime, with 117 it basically would turn long call into a 19 hours.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1535005)

...and are last-minute green slips legal under 117?

Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1535471)

Actually how would they even cover green slips inside of 10 hours?
In order to guarantee, uninterrupted 10 hours of prospective rest the green slips would have to be assigned earlier.

Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1535593)

I would think we need a response now. This could have significant implications on how one will bid for January. Maybe these new rules will make the case for a Reserve schedule more compelling.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1535483)

Basically, as soon as you sign in, you're on short call AND airport standby.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1535633)

Any Short Call window needs to be preceded by 10 hours of rest.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1535636)

I understand that, but what I meant is, even if you are not on reserve, as soon as you sign in for your trip at the airport, they can and will re-route you to fly something you didn't bid and didn't want, so you are effectively on short call, without being on "official" short call.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1535654)

Is it too late to do that vacation slide thingy for Jan?

Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1535661)

Nope. Vacation Slide is an option in PBS. As long as you don't try to slide outside of the bid period, and you can hold all the slide days off, it will process the slide and then the rest of your bid. I usually do a few else start nexts to make sure I have a contingency plan.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1535543)

The first thing we need to do is, define Rest. What is Rest?

Is commuting into ATL rest?

Is sitting at home on the couch watching Auburn beat Alabama rest?

Is sleeping in a black chair in the crew lounge rest?

Is tossing and turning in bed, in a noisy hotel room with the maids vacuuming and knocking on the door all day, before you have to fly an all-nigher rest?

Is sitting in a business class seat for 3 hours during a noisy meal service, filled with PA's, rest?

I think Delta needs to buy out the top 5 floors at the Hilton on Virginia Ave. and put all the crews there for 10 hours prior to every sign in! :D