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Historical note: Delta used to have a system for covering trips when they ran out of reserves that was even worse than GS/IA. It was called the "Dual Pool", and allowed volunteers to (barely) maintain currency in a higher seat (e.g. L1011B/DC-9A). If called out, the pilot was paid the monthly reserve guarantee for the higher seat. As you can imagine, it was not conducive to safety, especially when both guys were dual poolers. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1537674)

8:40 day on the last day. The fatigue level on that last day is going to be so high.

That's the evil genius of it. They know we won't call in "fatigued" in the middle of the last day.

I see a reduction in whatever influence the "rotation" committee had on building trips.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1537739)

That's the evil genius of it. They know we won't call in "fatigued" in the middle of the last day.

I see a reduction in whatever influence the "rotation" committee had on building trips.

They openly completely ignored the RCC on the airbus categories in Jan.

We'll see how things go as people get a hang of 117.

The Daily Caller » Ryan-Murray budget deal hikes air travel security tax by 124 percent » Print

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Ryan-Murray budget deal hikes air travel security tax by 124 percent

The newly-released budget deal between Democratic Sen. Patty Murray and Republican Rep. Paul Ryan will hike the aviation security fee paid by air travelers by 124 percent, if passed.

Murray and Ryan settled on an agreement that would hit air travelers with a fee of $5.60 per one-way flight — or $11.20 for a round-trip excursion.

That’s 60 cents higher than the $5.00 fee the Department of Homeland Security requested, and represents a huge jump up from the current $2.50 minimum security fee.

Ryan had reportedly backed a $5.00 maximum fee during the budget negotiations.

DHS has been desperate for a fee increase to cover what the agency feels is a massive budgetary shortfall for the Transportation Security Agency, with current security fees covering only about 25 percent — or $1.9 billion — of the TSA’s $7.5 billion annual costs.

But the Ryan-Murray deal doesn’t earmark the new revenue for TSA. Instead, the funds will be deposited into the “general fund of the Treasury,” where they are supposed to help partially rollback the sequester and offset the automatic spending cuts set to begin in January.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1537739)

That's the evil genius of it. They know we won't call in "fatigued" in the middle of the last day.

Why not? If your fatigued you DH to domicile if you aren't already in it and they figure out how to cover the remaining pairing.
If your sick or tired (different than sick and tired) admit it and go get well or rested!

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1537614)

Plan on profit sharing being about 7.5 percent of your 2013 gross pay. Gross pay is not W2 pay. You need to look near the bottom right of the paystub to find gross which can be 30k or more then W2. You do have to back last years profit sharing out of the gross. That figure times 7.5 should be pretty close this year.

I wish it was 7.5 TIMES my gross. I'm sure you mean .075 times my gross.

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Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1537761)

Right or wrong, I don't see many guys willing to put up with the harassment they will endure if they call in fatigued the day after a 30 hour layover.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1537750)

They openly completely ignored the RCC on the airbus categories in Jan.

We'll see how things go as people get a hang of 117.

80,

Welcome to the club. In LAX they have ignored the RCC from day 1. Two months after they bragged how responsive they were to our inputs by putting more SNA trips - the SNA trips totally disappeared.

The funny thing about 117 rule changes - our trips (LAX 73) have been so bad, for so long, that there is really no difference. As a matter of fact our trips might even be a little better in January - probably due to the other bases trips getting worse. :eek:

Scoop

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1537764)

Right or wrong, I don't see many guys willing to put up with the harassment they will endure if they call in fatigued the day after a 30 hour layover.

Any harassment on this should generate an ASAP and a union call. Even with a 48 hour layover, what if I simply didn't sleep well last night for whatever reason and I'm tired?

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Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 1537780)

Any harassment on this should generate an ASAP and a union call. Even with a 48 hour layover, what if I simply didn't sleep well last night for whatever reason and I'm tired?

Hm, an ASAP and a union call. Hopefully those actions will produce better results on fatigue calls than they have on our sick harassment, I mean, verification calls.

Just out of curiosity...do you call in fatigued every time you don't sleep well in the hotel? What has the company's response been?