Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I was trying to find funny indian hunting tiger pictures, but they all were dead tigers in front of indians. Killing an endagered species isn't all that funny... more tragic.

I'm hoping for a tragedy to occur on Jan 6, though. Here's to your friend being out 20 bucks and that captain out 500!

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I really need to create an APC specific butthurt form.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

We sell a commodity at Delta. Its not the same commodity sold at UPS or Fedex as our primary business. Southwest does sell the same commodity and in 2012 their average pilot made 157,000 dollars. The average pilot at Delta made 158,000 and change. The average Delta pilot received a pension benefit package worth 51,000 dollars. The average SouthWest pilots package was 27,466. The average Delta pilot flew 52 block hours a month in 2012 at SW it was 64.5. Total block hour costs at Delta which is the one number wallstreet, management and the NMB really care about was 941 dollars an hour. SW was at 698 dollars an hour. To make that a really honest comparison because of the fleet mix Delta's narrowbody cost was 911 per hour verses 692 at SW.
To look at the 2013 numbers pilot compensation will be up another 10.8 percent which should put the average Delta pilot around 174,000 a year with no increase at SW. 2014 should bump the average Delta pilot to just under 180K a year and a additional 1 percent into the retirement package with no increase at SW.
All and all a remarkable comeback from a company that was bankrupt in 2005. When you go before the NMB the above numbers are what will be in play. I know you read the powerpoint presentation from the head of the NMB when she flew to Atlanta to lay out the ground rule for our contract negotiations to the MEC. She made it very clear that any release would be contingent on our proposals being reasonable and the definition of reasonable would be our standing amongst the other passenger airlines.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'm so tired of sitting rsv, I'm hoping I don't get bumped back to it again next month.

However between the policy dispute about long call and the crazy trips, maybe it'll wash out.

Originally Posted by daldude

Just read the new procedure to get from the plane to the hotel van pick point in JFK. To include taking either the Howard Beach or Jamaica Station Train to Federal Circle, just to get to the hotel van pick up point. Has anyone done this yet? How long did it take to get to hotel from plane?

It appears to me this process could take 50 to 70 min just to get from the plane to sitting on the van. If this is the case it is unacceptable and not in compliance with the spirit of PWA section 5.E.5 addressing the 20 min wait before obtaining transportation.

Why are we giving up terminal to hotel transportation? This is just the continuing trend of QOL issues being given away. Or am I making to big of a deal out of this?

Is MARTA to hotel in ATL next?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I was trying to find funny indian hunting tiger pictures, but they all were dead tigers in front of indians. Killing an endagered species isn't all that funny... more tragic.

I'm hoping for a tragedy to occur on Jan 6, though. Here's to your friend being out 20 bucks and that captain out 500!

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Plan on profit sharing being about 7.5 percent of your 2013 gross pay. Gross pay is not W2 pay. You need to look near the bottom right of the paystub to find gross which can be 30k or more then W2. You do have to back last years profit sharing out of the gross. That figure times 7.5 should be pretty close this year.