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I got a more recent update. Its not good news however. The 767 fleet will see the retirement of all the small motor aircraft as they come up on heavy checks. That is 9 airframes if I recall. The 1400 series aircraft which is 4 airframes will remain. 3
ER airframes will be converted to transcon domestic for a total of only 7 domestic 767's.
The plan for the 757's has not changed. There will be a total of 70 airframes parked by 2017. The rest will get heavy checks and stick around. All 757-300's will stay. The 757's are going to be reconfigured for 199 seats except the transcon airframes. Not sure exactly how you get 199 seats in the aircraft with a first class. We had 199 at Song in all one class. There is one possible change in the works. We are working on a long term sports charter contract. If that comes through then 10 additional 757's will get heavy checks with 60 being parked.
Near term retirements have slowed but the number of parked airframes 3 years out has not changed unless that sports contract comes through.
All of the above subject to change. 25 757's have been parked so far.

The same way Delta has squeezed more seats into the MD90. Remove a galley. That's my guess.

Thanks for the update. Would've preferred more staying.

johnso29

01-01-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1550687)

^^^Yep. Unless expecting a GS, there is no need to answer your phone when Delta calls....EVER.

I agree with you 100%. Uh-oh........:D

sailingfun

01-01-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1550631)

Is there anything in the contract to stop them from just assigning most open time 2 days out now. If they were to make a legitimate attempt at helping our QOL like this it would make some strides in the good will department.

Oh and Happy New Years and enjoy the 3% raise you just got ;)

They can not assign trips 2 days out unless its a Malaria zone. The contract requires that the trips remain in open time until the 7am window the day prior before being given to a reserve. If we end up in a grievance situation on this issue and win under the 3 hour prior required notification then any trips for a long call reserve pilot become voluntary and long call in essence ceases to exist. The company using another section of the contract believes differently.
I think we would win the grievance especially bringing WSC into the discussion. Nothing is for sure however and if we lost then the companies plan from Dec becomes the rule. Hopefully we reach a agreement and don't have to roll the dice.

Too Tall

01-01-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1550675)

Simple solution. Don't answer your phone. If the notice is greater then 12 hours don't acknowledge. Then call DALPA.

Has anyone tested the waters yet using the 3 hour notification in our contact?

Jack Bauer

01-01-2014 03:31 PM

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Talk amongst yourselves.

gloopy

01-01-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1549886)

Is this our (Pilots) problem - No it is the companies problem, but if anyone thinks we (DALPA) will win a grievance when a pilot is given 19 hours notice for long call and waits until 3 hours prior to acknowledge they are crazy. Before 117 we had a 9 hour window which was applied via the "NLT 3 hours to report" verbiage.

It is quite reasonable to replace the "NLT 3 hours until report" verbiage with "within 9 hours."

That's fine if that's where this is headed. But the magic memo in question pretends we are on a 2 hour fantasy leash starting from the beginning of long call to preserve the staffing neutral pipe dream of 12 hour long call in an extremely creative way. No one is saying all pilots should acknowledge all assigments 3 hours prior and therefore go illegal. But no pilot is on a 2 hour long call leash either because that simply doesn't exist.

We are under no obligation whatsoever to schedule check or acknlwledge while on a day off. Never were. And there simply is no such thing as a 2 hour long call leash. The company refusing to negotiate to solve this because they're stuck in their fantasy world of pretend 117 staffing neutral models in no way creates a mandate to unilaterally rewrite our contract and impose what would be a pretty huge concession (2 hour LC leash). Hopefully this is fixed soon. But until then there is a contract fully in place.

Erdude32

01-01-2014 03:38 PM

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RockyBoy

01-01-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Tall (Post 1550725)

Has anyone tested the waters yet using the 3 hour notification in our contact?

I was tempted to test it today because I don't really want to go to work tomorrow. :)

Got a trip on the schedule for tomorrow afternoon. They put it on at about 8AM local which is a lot earlier than they usually cover open trips. So I had 30 hours to ack the trip.

In my 7 years at Delta I have always acknowledged trips that were put on my schedule the day prior. So in this case I decided to do what I have always done and acknowledge the trip. Didn't want to be the first to give the 117 rule a whirl. So far in my category I have not seen any trips that were assigned via the LC process come back into the pot. So nobody has tested it yet here, but they had all those trips assigned close to 24 hours prior to report.

Now, if they call me at 1AM for a trip the next day at 2PM, I'm not going to acknowledge that one until I wake up because that is what I have always done.

Check Essential

01-01-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Tall (Post 1550725)

Has anyone tested the waters yet using the 3 hour notification in our contact?

The poor long call reserves are just trying to get across the river.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1111950i.jpg

Unfortunately, one of them is not going to make it.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...i_1838493i.jpg

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