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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1550764)
I was tempted to test it today because I don't really want to go to work tomorrow. :)
Got a trip on the schedule for tomorrow afternoon. They put it on at about 8AM local which is a lot earlier than they usually cover open trips. So I had 30 hours to ack the trip. In my 7 years at Delta I have always acknowledged trips that were put on my schedule the day prior. So in this case I decided to do what I have always done and acknowledge the trip. Didn't want to be the first to give the 117 rule a whirl. So far in my category I have not seen any trips that were assigned via the LC process come back into the pot. So nobody has tested it yet here, but they had all those trips assigned close to 24 hours prior to report. Now, if they call me at 1AM for a trip the next day at 2PM, I'm not going to acknowledge that one until I wake up because that is what I have always done. Management is going to find somebody who checks their schedule 30 hours out, sees a trip, and fails to acknowledge in time to fly it... and DALPA is going to find somebody whose phone was on silent because they were in church when scheduling tried to call them 12 hours and 5 minutes ahead of sign-in. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1550673)
I don't think Sec 23N will allow that. Unless there is no one left on LC. Or unless they want to pay the LC pilot it should have gone to AND the SC pilot for the same trip.
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"Hard landing" damages MD-90 at MKE
Lots of incidents in the news lately. Add another one to the list from this afternoon.
A Delta flight from Minneapolis was damaged upon landing Wednesday afternoon at Mitchell International Airport. There were no injuries. Some flights were delayed when Delta Flight 2504 made a hard landing around 4:15 p.m. The airport runway reopened around 5:45 p.m. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel sports columnist Michael Hunt was on the flight after covering the Marquette men's basketball team in Omaha, Neb. on Tuesday. "It was a tough landing. The pilot said the brakes locked and it blew two tires," Hunt said in a phone interview shortly before 5 p.m. as he and other passengers waited on board the plane for buses to carry them to the airport. Airport spokeswoman Patricia Rowe said the plane experienced a mechanical problem as it landed at the airport's north-south runway. The plane turned off the runway and was parked on an adjacent taxiway. Several emergency vehicles were sent to the scene. Hunt said the plane was about three-quarters filled. Passengers were calm when the plane landed. Travelers waiting for flights at the airport were told an air traffic emergency had closed a runway at the airport. Passengers were picked up by shuttle buses around 5:15 p.m. and taken to the terminal, Hunt said. They were told crews hoped to tow the plane nearer to the terminal to unload luggage. Travelers with checked bags were advised they could either wait for luggage to be unloaded or have their suitcases delivered to them later. |
Originally Posted by duder
(Post 1550772)
Lots of incidents in the news lately. Add another one to the list from this afternoon.
A Delta flight from Minneapolis was damaged upon landing Wednesday afternoon at Mitchell International Airport. There were no injuries. Some flights were delayed when Delta Flight 2504 made a hard landing around 4:15 p.m. The airport runway reopened around 5:45 p.m. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel sports columnist Michael Hunt was on the flight after covering the Marquette men's basketball team in Omaha, Neb. on Tuesday. "It was a tough landing. The pilot said the brakes locked and it blew two tires," Hunt said in a phone interview shortly before 5 p.m. as he and other passengers waited on board the plane for buses to carry them to the airport. Airport spokeswoman Patricia Rowe said the plane experienced a mechanical problem as it landed at the airport's north-south runway. The plane turned off the runway and was parked on an adjacent taxiway. Several emergency vehicles were sent to the scene. Hunt said the plane was about three-quarters filled. Passengers were calm when the plane landed. Travelers waiting for flights at the airport were told an air traffic emergency had closed a runway at the airport. Passengers were picked up by shuttle buses around 5:15 p.m. and taken to the terminal, Hunt said. They were told crews hoped to tow the plane nearer to the terminal to unload luggage. Travelers with checked bags were advised they could either wait for luggage to be unloaded or have their suitcases delivered to them later. |
Originally Posted by duder
(Post 1550772)
Lots of incidents in the news lately. Add another one to the list from this afternoon.
A Delta flight from Minneapolis was damaged upon landing Wednesday afternoon at Mitchell International Airport. There were no injuries. Some flights were delayed when Delta Flight 2504 made a hard landing around 4:15 p.m. The airport runway reopened around 5:45 p.m. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel sports columnist Michael Hunt was on the flight after covering the Marquette men's basketball team in Omaha, Neb. on Tuesday. "It was a tough landing. The pilot said the brakes locked and it blew two tires," Hunt said in a phone interview shortly before 5 p.m. as he and other passengers waited on board the plane for buses to carry them to the airport. Airport spokeswoman Patricia Rowe said the plane experienced a mechanical problem as it landed at the airport's north-south runway. The plane turned off the runway and was parked on an adjacent taxiway. Several emergency vehicles were sent to the scene. Hunt said the plane was about three-quarters filled. Passengers were calm when the plane landed. Travelers waiting for flights at the airport were told an air traffic emergency had closed a runway at the airport. Passengers were picked up by shuttle buses around 5:15 p.m. and taken to the terminal, Hunt said. They were told crews hoped to tow the plane nearer to the terminal to unload luggage. Travelers with checked bags were advised they could either wait for luggage to be unloaded or have their suitcases delivered to them later. Incident: Delta MD90 at Washington on Dec 10th 2013, burst tyre damaged wing Incident: Delta MD90 at Washington on Apr 20th 2013, smoke from landing gear during roll out Incident: Delta MD90 at Boston on Jan 31st 2013, dragging brake during line up http://avherald.com/img/dal_md90_n93...n_130131_1.jpg |
Wow, either you guys are working way too hard, or I'm not working hard enough. 12 year FO on ER in NYC, only grossed somewhere around $142,000.00
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1550758)
That's fine if that's where this is headed. But the magic memo in question pretends we are on a 2 hour fantasy leash starting from the beginning of long call to preserve the staffing neutral pipe dream of 12 hour long call in an extremely creative way. No one is saying all pilots should acknowledge all assigments 3 hours prior and therefore go illegal. But no pilot is on a 2 hour long call leash either because that simply doesn't exist.
We are under no obligation whatsoever to schedule check or acknlwledge while on a day off. Never were. And there simply is no such thing as a 2 hour long call leash. The company refusing to negotiate to solve this because they're stuck in their fantasy world of pretend 117 staffing neutral models in no way creates a mandate to unilaterally rewrite our contract and impose what would be a pretty huge concession (2 hour LC leash). Hopefully this is fixed soon. But until then there is a contract fully in place. We cannot wait until 3 hours prior to show to acknowledge, and fly the trip under Part 117. So, I can clearly not drink from the cup in front of me. OTOH, we (probably) don't have an obligation to acknowledge an assignment within 2 hours of contact. So, I can clearly not drink from the cup in front of you. Moral of the story: don't get involved in land wars in Southeast Asia, and don't get into a battle of wits with SD. |
Originally Posted by duder
(Post 1550772)
Michael Hunt was on the flight
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1550840)
Very good synopsis.
We cannot wait until 3 hours prior to show to acknowledge, and fly the trip under Part 117. So, I can clearly not drink from the cup in front of me. OTOH, we (probably) don't have an obligation to acknowledge an assignment within 2 hours of contact. So, I can clearly not drink from the cup in front of you. Moral of the story: don't get involved in land wars in Southeast Asia, and don't get into a battle of wits with SD. Truly, you have a dizzying intellect! Scoop :) |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1550879)
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect!
Scoop :) Tell me that guy does not look like SD 20 years ago! The princess bride - Battle of the wits - YouTube |
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