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Old 01-16-2014 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Please pardon me for being a cheap, slow witted procrastinator, but is there a way to get all of 2013's monthly schedule and/or rotation information now, without dropping $50 on one of the services?
You can get the information out of iCrew but it is a slow, difficult, error prone and extremely tedious task to manually calculate the exact hours you were present in what cities and figure out how much per diem you were paid and how much you were actually eligible for under the IRS guidelines.
Delta does not make this process convenient at all. Many many mouse clicks and lots of time with a calculator to do something a computer can do in nanoseconds.

Flightline and Pro-Diem have developed highly specialized software that is able to run scripts on Delta's mainframe and pull all that data out in just a few seconds and come up with the 3 or 4 critical numbers that we need to file our taxes. Then they sell us our own numbers for $50.

Delta's programmers could obviously do the same thing without too much effort but I guess this falls under the category of "what are you willing to give up for that".
Old 01-16-2014 | 10:33 AM
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APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.
Old 01-16-2014 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.



Moonshot,


Unless I am reading this wrong the first day of your hire month. From the contract:


8. An APD request will be granted if, at the time of processing, the:
30 a. number of reserves available in the category is at least 25% of the number of reserves
31 required (as determined by the reserves required formula under Section 23 W., and as
32 shown in DBMS),
33 Note: For purposes of a rotation that is scheduled to begin in one bid period and end
34 in another, prior to the close of line bidding for the second bid period, a day(s) within
35 such second bid period will be deemed to have sufficient reserve availability,
36 provided that such day(s) does not fall within an APD holiday period as described in
37 Section 23 I. 8. a. Exception.9
38 Exception: An APD request may be denied regardless of the number of reserves
39 available during the period commencing two days before and ending one day after the
40 following:
41 1) New Year’s Day
42 2) Super Bowl Sunday
43 3) Good Friday
8 Section 23 I. 7. Note renamed Note one and Note two (new) added by LOA #13.
9 Section 23 I. 8. a. Note (new) added by LOA #13.
Section 23 - Scheduling
23-21
1 4) Easter
2 5) Memorial Day
3 6) Independence Day
4 7) Labor Day
5 8) Thanksgiving Day
6 9) Christmas Day
7 and
8 b. pilot has not been granted an APD since the first day of the bid period containing the
9 last anniversary of his date of hire, and ...



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Old 01-16-2014 | 10:51 AM
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Scoop,

Thanks. That's the way I was reading it. I just didn't know if anyone had any practical application of the text in the contract. Far be it for me to misinterpret something in there to my detriment (only happens every other month or so).
Old 01-16-2014 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.
I've used it several times. It resets on your hire date, so it would be a good bet to use it FEB, otherwise you'll lose it in MAR when it resets.
Old 01-16-2014 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
Scoop,

Thanks. That's the way I was reading it. I just didn't know if anyone had any practical application of the text in the contract. Far be it for me to misinterpret something in there to my detriment (only happens every other month or so).
So in plain English, you get a new APD the first day of your anniversary month. I verified this in JAN. I used mine last year and then on my time card in JAN (my anniversary month) it shows APD available as Y.

Remember if you're dropping a trip as a REG pilot you only need to APD one day of the trip to drop the whole thing. That will leave you available to WS/GS on the other days should you choose to. Remember that an APD is like a vacation day, so if it says APD for a date you can't do anything (which is the point )
Old 01-16-2014 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
S That will leave you available to WS/GS on the other days should you choose to.
Incorrect. You cannot WS/GS over the entire footprint of the trip you dropped with an APD, even if you only specified one day for the APD.
Old 01-16-2014 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
^^^^^ As a professional Delta pilot, I strive to be the brand and embrace our customers. When I am forced (by the company) to haul ass down the jetway with a bag of unhealthy easy-to-come-by food product, it's embarrassing and I'm sure not what we want to be purveying to our customers. What's even worse, IMHO, is walking off the jet and see a fellow pilot scarfing a Big Mac at the gate in front of his soon-to-be passengers. That cannot instill a lot of warm fuzzies with the pax.

Certainly, if we're concerned about flight safety and projecting a professional image, the company can agree to a couple of crew meals (what, maybe $10 for two pilots?) and an additional five or ten minute turn time?
Really, if you need to get something to eat before a flight to be fit to fly, go eat. There is nothing not professional about getting something to eat walking down the jetway with food. Your job is to fly a safe plane. Being fed is part of that. We are human. Let's back to posting something that matters. To much crying like teens around here.
Old 01-16-2014 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Incorrect. You cannot WS/GS over the entire footprint of the trip you dropped with an APD, even if you only specified one day for the APD.
I wish guys would read their contract... the only day you can't ws/gs is the apd day... not the entire footprint of the trip.
Old 01-16-2014 | 11:58 AM
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The Sharpest Tool says something a certain inferior "Tool" will find the following objectionable. This other "Tool" is fond of comparing our compensation to a certain 737 operator. That's fine but he never does it apples to apples and likes to say stupid things like the 737 operator really doesn't work that much and makes sooooo much more.

My stats: narrow body left seat

801 block hours flown

$268,496 total compensation (pay, 401k, DC, profit sharing)

1 greenslip

How many block hours did the 737 operator fly?
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