I wonder if management is still confident that they can manage IROPS with re-routes after this month?

 

That's all why I said it was a critical piece of info whether he ack'ed the short call.

You guys are correct when you say that they could have just called him at noon and given him the trip as a short call assignment.

You are both wrong about the midnight obligation though. Look close in iCrew at the Reserve Availability List. Guys coming off X days who are put on short call for the following day at noon have 2 hours of long call from midnight to 2 AM. Its right there under the RAW GROUP and DAYS AVAIL. You have to have your phone on during those 2 hours or check your schedule at 2 AM.
(that is -- in Dickson's world only. Under the "real" contract the last non-fly day schedule check still works) .

 

That looks awesome! How difficult is it to right up? I never had my Hobie 14 go that fast btw!!!

 

That's only true along with no obligation to acknowledge prior to 3 hours prior, and then needing 10 hours rest. So if anyone tried to "go all contract" on him over that, thats not an interpertation they want to get into.

 

I hear you.

Its a mess right now but I hope management understands the need to start resolving one or two of these issues in our favor. We've caved in far too often over the last several years. We've given them billions and its the pilots' turn to get a little bit back now that the corporation can afford it.

I hope ALPA will "go all contract" for a change.

 

They are putting guys coming off x-days on short call at 10am now.

 

Right on!

 

Yep, add in the two hours or so of report time makes the first report... noonish.

 

I'm not wrong about the midnight obligation..... I did state that he had LC obligation starting at midnight. What he did not have was an obligation to answer the phone right away or immediately respond at midnight.

The bolded part of your quote is the key. In the memo world only.

 

So they are not even following their own memo.......

If the last day off schedule check is not required now (even mentions that in the memo I believe, and can't be required per fars?) and you go on long call at midnight, a 10am short call doesn't work as there is no prospective 10 hours of rest after notification. Even per the memo you have 2 hours to respond under the worst case scenario. So if they call at midnight for 10am short call, and you don't respond until 0145, 10am short call doesn't work for the far's.

EDIT for reference: "Part 117 requires that a long call reserve pilot be given at least 10 hours of rest prior to starting an assigned FDP or reserve availibility period (RAP)....rest must be prospective in nature, so the pilot must acknowledge any fdp or rap no later than 10 hours prior......" Quote is from dalpa sched. alert.