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Bucking Bar 09-25-2009 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 683987)
I suspect that if we manage to retain the 100 seat flying through some kind of replacement aircraft, this is how it will be couched, with further scope givebacks. The argument will be framed as a win because "we saved the 100 seat flying" despite the fact that it was ours to begin with.

Nu

No kidding. I've got the gain turned up on my radar for just that scenario.

Management could use some more RJ flying awards to induce current operators to amend contracts.

sinca3 09-25-2009 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 683811)
Surprised no one else has bought this up yet...

Some really good guys got nominated to run for C44 Rep positions today. Congratulations to those selected. Even those who did not win were terrific people and most pilots in attendance found it difficult to chose amongst very competitive candidates. It was a tough choice.

It is my hope that all who ran for a nomination are willing to serve in other capacities too. It's good to see the quality of people that step up for our association!


Disregard found it....

Sink r8 09-25-2009 03:46 AM

Nu,

1) The first problem with a simple "polling rep" lies in the access to information. This is particularly true now that we get regular briefings from Delta under NDA's (which is both a blessing and a curse). Your rep has to know his people, poll them often to make sure he does the best he can, but utlimately, you rely upon judgment and experience AND a willingness to faithfully represent his group. Sending a "pollster" to the MEC is like sending a one-armed man to a wrestling match. I like the idea of seeing new blood, but that doesn't mean I don't want the most effective, most intelligent person up there.

2) I'm sure (I hope, anyway) you're kidding about all councils being the same, and wanting the same things. Different councils have different interests, for different reasons. This is especially true when it comes to simple issues, such as commuting, and reserves, co-terminal stuff, etc. We also have different cultures, and different approaches.

FmrFreightDog 09-25-2009 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 683948)
Aaaahh, how did I get more senior in my position after this North AE? The DC-9 must REALLY suck. :D

Where did you look to figure out what happened to your relative seniority in position? And why is the same information repeated over and over again in the AE? Anyone?

iceman49 09-25-2009 06:23 AM

The rep has to take everything into consideration, the pilots inputs and other information that may not be available to the pilot population. The decision may not be popular, but should always be in the plots long term interest...which may not be obvious at the time.

The different councils will have parochial interests, than its up to the various reps to convince the others of their needs.

Where I would like the line pilot to have more input, and possible even a direct vote is for the National ALPA officers.

Sink r8 09-25-2009 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 684077)
Where did you look to figure out what happened to your relative seniority in position? And why is the same information repeated over and over again in the AE? Anyone?

So you can look it up by category displacing from, or category displacing to.

Sink r8 09-25-2009 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 684081)
Where I would like the line pilot to have more input, and possible even a direct vote is for the National ALPA officers.

Too bad "Amen" is less than ten characters long...

newKnow 09-25-2009 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 684095)
Too bad "Amen" is less than ten characters long...

How about, "Amen!!!" :D

newKnow 09-25-2009 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 684077)
Where did you look to figure out what happened to your relative seniority in position? And why is the same information repeated over and over again in the AE? Anyone?

I looked in the last 1/2 of the award and saw that 2 people came into the list ahead of me and 8 people came in behind me. Or, was that the first 1/2? It was. Wait. The second 1/2 showed that 8 people were displaced, so I'm 2 numbers junior to where I was before.

Holy Cow. Learning some of this South stuff for me is like catching fish barehanded. Once I think I've caught it and tell everyone, I realize I never had it at all. In about an hour I'll convince myself again that the AE shows I'm 8 numbers senior to where I was. The bottom line is that I know nothing. :)

New K Now

iaflyer 09-25-2009 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 684116)
Holy Cow. Learning some of this South stuff for me is like catching fish barehanded. Once I think I've caught it and tell everyone, I realize I never had it at all. In about an hour I'll convince myself again that the AE shows I'm 8 numbers senior to where I was. The bottom line is that I know nothing.

They usually publish a future category list soon after the bid is published where you can find how how far you got pushed down. ;-)


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