What is highlighted in red is absolutely correct. I disagree with the rest. While you don't have to be a tour guide, it doesn't hurt to provide a little information, and to let them know there is a living breathing human being at the controls of the airplane. It is customer service. Many seem to have forgotten that is the business in which we work.

 

I've never personally delayed, but I've had friends delay. Call ASAP. It's much harder to change once it's firmly scheduled. The only catch is you will have to agree to forgo pay rate protection if they don't get you converted by the end of the window, or if someone jr to you converts before you

 

Kinda like how he's standing up to Russia? Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting on Russia, Ukraine | The Weekly Standard

 

Training is not seniority based, conversion is.

 

Broad brush

 

OK, this topic has been kicked to death but here's a summary of the longest FO PA I've heard to date (about 4 months ago): 10:00PM pushback for a 45 min flight, get the flight number, origination (I guess we didn't know where we were at the time), destination, weather, line up ahead of us, and a long how-can-I-make-mine-stand-out thanks to the military men and women who serve us thank you, followed by an addendum of how he served in the Navy as well. Finally, a request to the best awesomemost flight attendants who we had with us that night to prepare the cabin for departure. Then, 4 mins later an announcement that we had to go back to the gate and get a new jet. Fortunately, there was some modicum of common sense (or perhaps a little intervention) the second time around which allowed us to only hear about a 1/4 of what we were previously subjected to. And yes, we were moving.

 

As usual, you give half the story, insert your own personal insults, and display it as truth.

 

"I'm shocked. Shocked, to find out that gambling is going on in here!"

It's a anonymous web board. Did you think that verified fact and a heightened sense of decorum was what you'd find? Opinions and insults are the fabric in the APC tapestry.

 

Damnation Buzz! That was perfect. Thanks!

 

Then I think you accidentally replied to the wrong post. I said we don't need long winded PA's with little factoid trivia. We make entirely too many PA's, regardless of sterile conditions or not. Especially with more and more TV's on board and everyone on their mobile devices. We (pilots and FA's) absolutely spam them with just the required announcements (and advertisements, etc) so a quick welcome aboard at the gate with basic info that fits in a sub 10 second PA is all we really should be doing outside of required announcements and common sense stuff like holding, diverting, turb ahead, unexpected delays, etc.

There is still a remnant of old school pilot stuff that biases some people to think that more PA's are better because that's all we can do to differentiate ourselves and go the extra mile or whatever. So lots of pilots get carried away with it. We are slowly starting to figure out that less is more. Slowly. Very slowly.

But its wrong to think you can't squeeze in your takeoff number because that's a violation of sterile cockpit. Anyone dumb enough to believe that should never even set 250 under 10 (unless they're one of the few that actually have it "in the manuals" that set automation is acceptable for that specific limit) because they might get a 1 knot gust and have to self disclose themselves.

And many FA's don't listen to PA's. But some do. That quick sequence information is relevant and serves a purpose, and could very well end up reducing the bandwidth you spend talking in the back anyway.

"We're number three for takeoff" is not a violation of anything and anyone that thinks it even might be is too paranoid to operate an aircraft.