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CGfalconHerc 03-02-2014 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1593705)
Thanks for posting.

If our express carriers can not find pilots, how will they continue to perform ~ 40% of our flying? How can they attract pilots to Endeavor's contract?

IMHO the second these become "Delta" jobs, then our express operation becomes the most coveted opportunity in the industry. Delta could do away with the shell game, unify the flight operations, get rid of seven redundant corporate structures (and defacto separate fleets) and maintain a near status quo cost structure. That is the way forward.

I can get onboard with that..

kiteflyer 03-02-2014 05:16 PM

Bring back the RJ's to Delta. Start with the 76 seat Jets. They always were Delta Jobs. They Still are Delta Jobs. It's time a pilot with a Delta seniority number signs the release while flying one.

CGfalconHerc 03-02-2014 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1593725)
Bring back the RJ's to Delta. Start with the 76 seat Jets. They always were Delta Jobs. They Still are Delta Jobs. It's time a pilot with a Delta seniority number signs the release while flying one.

Maybe some 15 yr Delta FO's will finally get to be an RJ captain?!

I'll take the E-Jet out of SLC to BZN and JAC, please...

Justdoinmyjob 03-02-2014 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc (Post 1593678)
DPA vs. DALPA; North vs. South; Hat vs. No Hat; Furlough recall vs. RJ new hire; Mainline vs. DCI; Pilot vs. ACS; Red vs. Blue; Fox vs. CNN;

So many opportunities to keep the conversation lively, but none that bring us together to make this job what it used to be.

My fun meter is pegged...

DPA has had over 2 yrs to get enough cards together and call for a vote. The condescending "tough guy" attitude is why so many aren't renewing those same cards. Time to bring it to a vote..

If DPA wins, I'll support the new representation. If DPA loses.. take off your DPA bag tag and get on board with the rest of us. Make your voice heard within DALPA. Let's not turn into the next AWA-USair-AMR debacle.

After all, it's about unity..right?

I asked TC point blank, "If there was a vote tomorrow and DPA lost, would you give up or fall back to regroup and try again?"
His response was, "If we fail, we fail. The pilot group has spoken. At least we tried." He also said his wife is beyond all this and wants it over one way or another.

hockeypilot44 03-02-2014 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1593725)
Bring back the RJ's to Delta. Start with the 76 seat Jets. They always were Delta Jobs. They Still are Delta Jobs. It's time a pilot with a Delta seniority number signs the release while flying one.

65 percent of our pilots voted for this contract. You know, the one that allows more 76 seat regional jets to be ordered by Delta to be flown by non-Delta pilots. The trend is not reversing course. More and more efficient jets continued to be outsourced. DCI is shrinking, but flying is not being brought in-house. If we keep the same course, our next step is allowing more seat in the jets already being outsourced in return for parking more 50 seaters.

Bucking Bar 03-02-2014 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc (Post 1593731)
Maybe some 15 yr Delta FO's will finally get to be an RJ captain?!

I'll take the E-Jet out of SLC to BZN and JAC, please...

If they can't already hold the 717 or 88 on this bid ....

I think all of this will happen far below us (or any current Delta pilot). It is more just a matter of doing the right thing for our profession and our airline.

IMHO Delta management needs this as much as we do ... we leveraged unity with DAL-NWA for gains in our PWA. Why not gain from solving our airline's future staffing problem?

Herkflyr 03-02-2014 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1593765)
I asked TC point blank, "If there was a vote tomorrow and DPA lost, would you give up or fall back to regroup and try again?"
His response was, "If we fail, we fail. The pilot group has spoken. At least we tried." He also said his wife is beyond all this and wants it over one way or another.

I don't believe TC for a nanosecond. There will always be a vote "just around the corner"...but strangely enough I don't think that there ever will be one. But the DPA will also never go away, because ultimately it is about one thing: TC's obsession and anger about the fact that he was furloughed a few years ago, and blames NWA/Delta and ALPA with nearly every waking thought.

The worse part is that this is not leading to a unified pilot force that is the most fundamental element in securing a great contract. But I don't think TC cares. While ALPA national and our own DALPA are correctly focusing on the Emirates and Norwegian Air schemes that could annihilate our industry, the DPA continues to look like a bunch of buffoons, more interested in who hacked their website than in the long term prosperity and viability of this profession.

So...hey DPA, I am asking you to call for a vote and resolve this, or go away and once again support your current representative body, which is DALPA. If you win the election, I will be a good member of the union, just as I like to think that I am now.

But please, let's have some closure here!

Seaslap8 03-02-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1593549)
Holy crud!
First time getting sidelined by DPA members today on the employ bus. I find it particularly ironic that DPA members seem to enjoy talking down and disrespecting pilots who aren't on board with their beliefs. If they are trying to convince people of your own beliefs they may want to refrain from using condescending sarcasm. I shouldn't if engaged, but I did. I blame myself.

I think that at this juncture it is wholly appropriate to relegate that group to squeaky wheel minority status...if there had been anything close to critical mass we would have seen a vote by now, don't you think?

UGBSM 03-02-2014 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1593725)
Bring back the RJ's to Delta. Start with the 76 seat Jets. They always were Delta Jobs. They Still are Delta Jobs. It's time a pilot with a Delta seniority number signs the release while flying one.

No thanks.

Denny Crane 03-02-2014 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1593771)
65 percent of our pilots voted for this contract. You know, the one that allows more 76 seat regional jets to be ordered by Delta to be flown by non-Delta pilots. The trend is not reversing course. More and more efficient jets continued to be outsourced. DCI is shrinking, but flying is not being brought in-house. If we keep the same course, our next step is allowing more seat in the jets already being outsourced in return for parking more 50 seaters.

Huh????? That statement does not make any sense.

Denny


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