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Old 03-05-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Here's the 73N route map.



This is how it always looks. I think the 737 has a restriction which prohibits daylight operations. Some very old & wise pilots claim it flies during the day, but I don't know anyone who has seen it happen, first hand.

Those pictures on the internet that show daylight ops are photoshops and Boeing test pilots.
Old 03-05-2014 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Delta must have substantially changed the interview process, as they weren't very successful at weeding out some of the ExpressJet and PCL crazies from the 2006-2008 timeframe. They seemed to do a good job with the ASA and CMR guys though (about half the new hires during that time).
They tried to keep me out, but 80 let me in.

Old 03-05-2014 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Here's the 73N route map.



This is how it always looks. I think the 737 has a restriction which prohibits daylight operations. Some very old & wise pilots claim it flies during the day, but I don't know anyone who has seen it happen, first hand.

Those pictures on the internet that show daylight ops are photoshops and Boeing test pilots.
You ever seen the MD-90 NAV database? Here are all the airports in it...



The 717, I can see the most obscure GA airports around where the plane could never have a chance to land. The 90, I don't even see my destination.
Old 03-05-2014 | 07:18 AM
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The stock keeps trying to break through $35 and keeps getting whacked when it does.

You guys need to stop selling when it touches that number.
Old 03-05-2014 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
Better? Absolutely not.

And Compass was a Northwest abomination that Delta inherited.
Compass is/was merely ALPA pilots flying DC-9 replacement aircraft with Delta painted on the side. "Abomination" is an emotional description; if you're referring to the way Compass/NewCo was created, do you conclude that Delta splitting off that aircraft fleet was the best solution?
Old 03-05-2014 | 08:17 AM
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Perhaps DL is trying to prevent a repeat of the Northeast merger. They've all retired now, but for many of us here, we flew right seat for some of the worst ever "professional" pilots. You'd think after 25 years and 20K or so hours most would have figured it out, but they were about 50/50.

There's always gonna be a few percent you hire that are mistakes, but you have to accept that and move on. When you take on all comers someone else picked, your fear is you just hooked up with another Northeast.
Old 03-05-2014 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It's unfortunately true. Delta hiring is finding out what make up the seniors there which is likely similar to other regionals. They are mostly stuck there for a reason with of course a few exceptions. The liability involved would be interesting to see given how bad so many have blown the screening yet go back to fly delta pax.
I don't think there's any liability. Even a rookie HR dept at an upstart knows how to layer their interview process with more than enough plausable deniability for a million reasons. And DL's HR dept is no rookie. Unless they start stamping "UNSAFE TO FLY DELTA PASSENGERS" in red block letters on their application and then save it for audit, they have nothing to worry about.

Who, pilot John Doe? Well our records, backed up by Federal qualification standards, show he was fully qualified. He just didn't meet all of our personality requirements at the time. Perhaps he didn't know enough DL logo history, or his shoes weren't shined enough. We were still going to hire him, but he wore a blue tie to the interview, so...
Old 03-05-2014 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
BB, I agree with much of what you strive for, but this is one of the reasons I am NOT in favor of bringing their whole list onto our list. I've heard the initial SSP guys have a roughly 50% acceptance rate. I don't want to sound harsh, but I don't want someone in my right seat that Delta doesn't also want there.
I see nothing to gain by magically annointing another seniority list with DL numbers. Particularly if it involves DL numbers and longevity while still at their regional, maybe even for years, as that would involve a very steep price to pay for virtually zero gain. Unless the actual aircraft are transferred to our list as well, with a corresponding reduction in large allowable AC to be outsourced, simply putting more pilots on to our list south of our scope line without moving the scope line the same distance south does nothing other than try and trick the company into hiring top scale new hires which they're not going to do.

This is a mainline scope problem with a mainline scope solution. Reduce the allowable airframes to be outsourced and operate them here, with new hires at the bottom of the list. Simply gifting seniority numbers to regional pilot groups and/or placing them into our MEC does nothing whatsoever to change the fact that the airframes they fly are outside our scope line. CPZ being in the DL MEC was rediculous. The planes were still outsourced for incredibly low pay and benefits, they still had a separate contract and extremely limited leverage with a fairly weak long term contract. The only "link" was the flow, which was preserved either way anyway. If they were still part of the MEC, all that would do long term would be to set up DALPA for a DFR.

Even though CPZ would make the most sense of the bunch, the concept just doesn't work or do anything to reduce outsourcing or its negative effects. It doesn't bring the flying to this side of the line at all. Not by a single jet. And even if we re-annointed CPZ and somehow made it work, what about all the other "DCI" carriers…most (if not all by now) who fly for other legacy airlines as well. So regionals with numtipile seniority numbers at multipile carriers? Not going to work.
Old 03-05-2014 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The drone technology makes single pilot feasible in the next decade...
Feasible, but far from cost-effective.
Old 03-05-2014 | 09:31 AM
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We have a new Negotiating Committee Chairman. Good man for the job, IMO.
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