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Old 05-06-2014 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
If reserve worked so good for you, why will you bid a regular line in July or August? I'm thinking with the 100/28 FAR 117 limitation, reserve is the best way to GS.
Rather than have the days put in the vacation bank and only get paid 2 more weeks of vacation next year ( worth 45:30), I'd rather use them to drop trips, get paid for them (72:00, two six day trips), and take a summer month off or possibly green slip on a regular line with the month free...

Let's see, use 12 day drop two 36 hour 6 day trips. 72:00 + 3 from the bank to reach GS trigger + 70:00 for one 6 day/35 hour GS + 70:00 for the 2nd 6 day/35 hour GS = a possible 215 hour month for flying 12 days....

Granted that's a pie in the sky scenario but, if nothing else, I get a month during the summer off! I think it's a much better use of PB days.

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Old 05-06-2014 | 08:15 PM
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Thanks for the explanation Denny. Makes sense to me.
Old 05-06-2014 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Moved up about 12 numbers on 330B, could have held M88A in NYC with about 19 below if I wanted, about 200 from 73NA and 32 from 320A. Too bad I don't live there abouts. Like driving to work too much

I did just get a 7 day GS and started Rolling Thunder which is even better
Looks like quite a bit of upward mobility lately.
Old 05-06-2014 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
...no results whatsoever. Wasn't an agreement forthcoming this time last month?
So what's more important -- the timely deal or the right deal? Some chastised our reps for reaching too quick a deal (whatever that means) in C2012, presumably because we could have held out for more. My assumption is that we do not yet have a deal because we have not yet gotten the Company to agree to enough to satisfy our requirements.

Should we go ahead and agree to whatever they have on the table now to meet a particular timeline?
Old 05-06-2014 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Donatelli is at the Red Sox game with Richard tonight. That says it all.
Uh, Donatelli was at a Sox game with other people on the MEC & committee structure, saw pics from a friend on fb. Didn't see anything about Richard being there, got pics or a link?

If he was there, not sure that it really "says it all". It could say that they're BFFs with Richard, or it could say they took the opportunity to interact one-on-one with him in an informal environment in an effort to break the stalemate on this 117 thing. The simple fact of them being at the game together (if it's a fact) doesn't argue one way or the other.

Rest of your post, I agree on. I'm a FNG so I can't complain much, but the rest of ya'll gave up a lot the last decade, and deserve a good portion of it back now that the company is doing so well.
Old 05-06-2014 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Rather than have the days put in the vacation bank and only get paid 2 more weeks of vacation next year ( worth 45:30), I'd rather use them to drop trips, get paid for them (72:00, two six day trips), and take a summer month off or possibly green slip on a regular line with the month free...

Let's see, use 12 day drop two 36 hour 6 day trips. 72:00 + 3 from the bank to reach GS trigger + 70:00 for one 6 day/35 hour GS + 70:00 for the 2nd 6 day/35 hour GS = a possible 215 hour month for flying 12 days....

Granted that's a pie in the sky scenario but, if nothing else, I get a month during the summer off! I think it's a much better use of PB days.

Denny
Denny, if you can roll that, you are King Kong! Promise you'll report back to us lesser ones the results so we can all share in your victory.
Old 05-06-2014 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor
Denny, if you can roll that, you are King Kong! Promise you'll report back to us lesser ones the results so we can all share in your victory.
Ha Ha! That would be a coup! I'll let you know.

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Old 05-07-2014 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Just a side story about Clinton and the brave American dudes.

I picketed at DFW during the NWA strike (along with lots of Delta bubbas) and American guys. One day, as we were taking a break from the walk of the living dead, the APA Chairman told us that they actually asked President Clinton to put them back to work. Something about killing the golden goose. Not a conspiracy theory, I heard the dude say it. Kinda crappy thing to tell guys actively on strike.

The politics get crazy during a strike. I forget the name of the administrations hit man, but he promised a $hit sandwich to both us and NWA management if we didn't settle.

So, will any president let us strike......it's a moot point, honest. Doesn't matter which party.

Ferd
Well, you sort if proved that there is a difference. Regardless of whether APA asked for intervention, the message was that the pilots struck, the President pulled them back, but it can happen again if you don't negotiate... So negotiate.

Different animal than having a guy promise the nation (and management), that you won't be able to strike.

In terms of leverage with revenue, one version has headlines that say you struck, but prez is delaying the inevitable, the other version has "Prez Intervenes, no Strike". One version would let people book tickets with a degree of confidence, the other wouldn't.

Still, I agree with you guys that this isn't a black-or-white proposition (no pun intended).
Old 05-07-2014 | 02:45 AM
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Today's thought of the day...if you can't carry your own bag up a flight of stairs its probably time to hang up the FA career.
Old 05-07-2014 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Exactly what does Donatelli's being at a Red Sox game say (I don't even know if its true)?
Nothing.

It says a Rep was not going to the game and there was an open ticket that nobody was going to use. Shame not to have anyone miss a Red Socks game. Nothing planned, no big deal.
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