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forgot to bid 04-07-2014 04:25 AM

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Timbo 04-07-2014 04:42 AM

"Looks like the face of a Preacher, smells like the ass of a bear!"

acl65pilot 04-07-2014 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1618407)
All right. It's time to buy a new bag.
Who makes the black backpack that most pilots drag around?
Does the stop over store or crew outfitters sell them?

You talking about the Brightline Bags?

Purple Drank 04-07-2014 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by kiteflyer (Post 1618407)
All right. It's time to buy a new bag.
Who makes the black backpack that most pilots drag around?
Does the stop over store or crew outfitters sell them?


SwissGear Backpacks - eBags.com

Timbo 04-07-2014 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1618485)

Which one will hold the most Humble? :D

iceman49 04-07-2014 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1618326)
ALPA appears to be doing a good job raising awareness of the threat that the NAI scheme poses to the US Airline industry.

ALPA is presenting this whole issue as potentially having dire consequences for our industry and I agree wholeheartedly.

My questions is how far should APLA go in opposing this threat?

It would seem to me that if this plan were to come to fruition the US Airline Industry will slowly but surely follow the US Maritime Industry into oblivion. This is exactly the case that APLA makes and once again I agree.

ALPA is off to a good start with a lot of Senators and Congressmen lining up against the bill, but what if that is not enough? What if the right $$$$ grease the palms of the wrong hand and this whole deal goes through?

Since ALPA is saying it would basically doom us why not pull out all the stops and make a statement to the affect of "If NAI is allowed to go through with their 3 card Monty plan of international air service ALPA will call for a Nationwide Airline Pilot Strike."

Granted this is an extreme measure, but ALPA is the one saying this will doom our industry. Most US Pilots would be negatively affected. Any Pilot under 50 will be greatly affected. Pilots under 40 better find the phone number to that fictional Truck driver school that Goose mentions in TOPGUN, and guys just starting out......Fuhgeddaboutit. I mean how people do you know that work in the US Maritime industry?

Think about the spotlight an pronouncement like that would shine on the NAI scheme. It would provide fodder for insatiable 24/7 news networks and hopefully the result would be to put an end to this potential fiasco once and for all. The actual strike may not even have to be called for but perhaps just discussed and planned etc. Then again if the alternative is the end of the US Airline industry as we know it, why not?

Anyway, food for thought.

Scoop

Scoop I would agree! Would hope that we learned something from the Lorenzo debacle and the dumping of retirements.

Bucking Bar 04-07-2014 06:36 AM

I support a nationwide SOS and would guess this might even have the support of some airline management teams. The legacy carriers would probably shut down their express operations (outsourced) too.

If asked to evaluate this for ALPA, a guy would have to figure out how much UNITY ALPA has, and my guess is, not much. What moral authority does ALPA have to stand up to outsourcing when in fact, ALPA facilitates more outsourcing than any single airline operator on the planet?

ALPA can not successfully play it both ways. Do we stand together, or not? If we stand together, then why did our President sign the Pinnacle Bridge Agreement? Why as MEC Chairman did he work to divest Compass from his MEC? Why is recovering work to the branded carriers not even a consideration?*

Our argument against outsourcing 787's falls flat when we have contracts which permit half of our 737 work to be performed elsewhere. If we want to protect jobs, then we should protect all ALPA jobs and then our protectionist chords would ring loudly with our core values. As is, our instrument is not tuned in a resonant key. That is why we have such low participation rates and DPA pushes. The tunes we play don't make sense and people tune out.

We could do better to understand UNITY on a fundamental level. I would recommend against this course of action until we get our collective head straight. A SOS to protect international widebody flying smacks of protecting the elites while we sell our children, and as such has an identical political smell as a pro-Apartheid movement would.

* Not including instances where management wants to return flying to their mainline operation.

TeddyKGB 04-07-2014 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1618326)
ALPA appears to be doing a good job raising awareness of the threat that the NAI scheme poses to the US Airline industry.

ALPA is presenting this whole issue as potentially having dire consequences for our industry and I agree wholeheartedly.

My questions is how far should APLA go in opposing this threat?

It would seem to me that if this plan were to come to fruition the US Airline Industry will slowly but surely follow the US Maritime Industry into oblivion. This is exactly the case that APLA makes and once again I agree.

ALPA is off to a good start with a lot of Senators and Congressmen lining up against the bill, but what if that is not enough? What if the right $$$$ grease the palms of the wrong hand and this whole deal goes through?

Since ALPA is saying it would basically doom us why not pull out all the stops and make a statement to the affect of "If NAI is allowed to go through with their 3 card Monty plan of international air service ALPA will call for a Nationwide Airline Pilot Strike."

Granted this is an extreme measure, but ALPA is the one saying this will doom our industry. Most US Pilots would be negatively affected. Any Pilot under 50 will be greatly affected. Pilots under 40 better find the phone number to that fictional Truck driver school that Goose mentions in TOPGUN, and guys just starting out......Fuhgeddaboutit. I mean how people do you know that work in the US Maritime industry?

Think about the spotlight an pronouncement like that would shine on the NAI scheme. It would provide fodder for insatiable 24/7 news networks and hopefully the result would be to put an end to this potential fiasco once and for all. The actual strike may not even have to be called for but perhaps just discussed and planned etc. Then again if the alternative is the end of the US Airline industry as we know it, why not?

Anyway, food for thought.

Scoop

There is no support out there. 4 out of 5 Delta pilots haven't even bothered to sign the petition. Only 26K total signatures is pathetic. Sadly most are oblivious and have their heads in the sand regarding this threat.

Herman 04-07-2014 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 1618013)
Wear your hat in the pilot lounge (or other places no one wears their hat, ie. crew van, bathroom, cockpit, etc). Other APCer suspects you're a poster and asks if you're on the forum. You respond 'penthouse' or 'facepunch'? With the i.d. acknowledged, you'll be free to exchange the same riveting info passed around here, only enhanced (possibly) by face to face.

I had an 83 whale guy on our jumpseat yesterday. I screamed..."FLASH" and waited. He didn't say thunder. I was really hoping it was Carl. Maybe someday. Cheers H

roadrunner65 04-07-2014 07:55 AM

Can anybody recommend a good seaplane tour operator out of Seattle or any that give us discounts? I'm thinking of taking the wife out there next month for an anniversary trip next month. Thanks!


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