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BTW...
....for those of you special and lucky enough to enjoy time on Virginia Avenue, two things:
1. "The hotel-motel Holiday Inn" The Holiday Inn North has been made more than respectable. 2. The Pig & The Pint. Brand new restaurant a minute and a half walking west of Blimpies on the Ave. Great menu. And of course, great beer. Best restaurant I have eaten at during training by far. They are online and on Facebook. Check it out, won't be disappointed. https://www.facebook.com/pigandpinta...63771723727583 |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1626744)
I don't think the company "waived the (contractual schedule check) requirement." More accurately, the FAA has stated unequivocally that a schedule check is considered duty. I think it's more accurate to state that the company has agreed to abide by the FAA's interpretation. Agree?
ii. Duty 1. Collective Bargaining Agreement Requirement A4A asked whether a requirement in the collective bargaining agreement to check a schedule or calendar, or to acknowledge a trip assignment, is considered duty. Section 117.3 defines duty as ‘‘any task that a flightcrew member performs as required by the certificate holder * * *’’ Thus, if a certificate holder requires that a flightcrew member check a schedule or calendar, or acknowledge a trip assignment, then the flightcrew member’s compliance with that requirement would be considered duty. The collective bargaining agreement has no impact on this analysis, as this agreement simply provides the legal basis for the certificate holder to require a flightcrew member to perform certain actions. Flight Duty Clarification March 5, 2013 |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1626801)
So here's my question to you and Purple. If dALPA grieves this, and we get hammered in that process, what is your stance gonna be at that point? Are you still going to be so critical?
Why is it that you think the union will get hammered. Seems pretty black and white, amirite? |
Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1626785)
The Pig & The Pint. Brand new restaurant a minute and a half walking west of Blimpies on the Ave. Great menu. And of course, great beer.
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Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1626785)
....for those of you special and lucky enough to enjoy time on Virginia Avenue, two things:
1. "The hotel-motel Holiday Inn" The Holiday Inn North has been made more than respectable. 2. The Pig & The Pint. Brand new restaurant a minute and a half walking west of Blimpies on the Ave. Great menu. And of course, great beer. Best restaurant I have eaten at during training by far. They are online and on Facebook. Check it out, won't be disappointed. https://www.facebook.com/pigandpinta...63771723727583 |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1626717)
There will be an agreement. There is zero chance this will not happen. I'm sure someone at DALPA is already drafting their pitch to the pilot group explaining how they held the company's feet to the fire and that the threat of a grievance at the end of 120 days forced the company to give up more than they wanted to.
They'll explain that only a small number of long-call pilots utilized the contractual 3-hour acknowledgement and that there simply wasn't much leverage (ironically, this lack of leverage was created by DALPA). They'll go on to explain that a grievance would've been "risky" and that we could've ended up with a much worse deal. And that this deal was a substantial win for the pilot group and that the MEC will continue to capitalize on every negotiating opportunity in the future. Blah, blah, blah... It's good that you and purple have made such a careful assessment of the situation and the different paths we might take in finding a solution. I am heartened you took the time to research our legal position and all the past rulings that might influence a grievance. It's great that research and your legal team point out the only proper way to handle this. The real shame is that our union is such a shoot from the hip bunch that fires first and aims later. I sure wish they could be more like you or perhaps DPA. That group always put out such well researched carefully thought out statements and positions. Damn the luck that we are stuck with a bunch of cowboys running the union. |
Does vacation and CQ count towards GS trigger?
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Originally Posted by index
(Post 1626744)
I don't think the company "waived the (contractual schedule check) requirement." More accurately, the FAA has stated unequivocally that a schedule check is considered duty. I think it's more accurate to state that the company has agreed to abide by the FAA's interpretation. Agree?
ii. Duty 1. Collective Bargaining Agreement Requirement A4A asked whether a requirement in the collective bargaining agreement to check a schedule or calendar, or to acknowledge a trip assignment, is considered duty. Section 117.3 defines duty as ‘‘any task that a flightcrew member performs as required by the certificate holder * * *’’ Thus, if a certificate holder requires that a flightcrew member check a schedule or calendar, or acknowledge a trip assignment, then the flightcrew member’s compliance with that requirement would be considered duty. The collective bargaining agreement has no impact on this analysis, as this agreement simply provides the legal basis for the certificate holder to require a flightcrew member to perform certain actions. Flight Duty Clarification March 5, 2013
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1626801)
So here's my question to you and Purple. If dALPA grieves this, and we get hammered in that process, what is your stance gonna be at that point? Are you still going to be so critical?
When you ask if "dALPA grieves this...", I don't think there's anything to grieve here as the FAA's position is clear. If you really mean whether DALPA grieves the SD memo position, then that's unrelated to the FAA interpretation. I believe DALPA has lost the initiative by delaying the filing of a grievance and by its faint whimper of a response to the SD memo. They could've galvanized the pilot group, DALPA and DPA alike with a strong stance. Unfortunately, they punted (again). Neither you nor I know the outcome of an arbitrators decision but I don't fear losing as some fear fighting. But then again I didn't fall for the "fleeting opportunity" line of C2012. |
I had dinner at The Pig and the Pint. It was pretty good. The menu was confusing and it was not cheap. But, I'm willing to pay for good food. The beer list was good. The list lacked a lager.
While we are on the subject, the hotel desk with the cookies was robbed Tuesday night. The news said it was the second time in a month. Somebody gave chase. Be careful. |
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1626727)
Thursday is a work day with no schedule check required. The way I read it, you'll simply go on long call at the later of nine hours after your scheduled block in on your phantom flight back to base (the one on which your per diem is based) or 0001 on Friday.
All that said, the Company has waived the requirement for a last non-fly-day schedule check, as that requirement would interrupt a pilot's rest coming off of his X-day. Why I can't do reserve........I just don't have the personality for it. Here it is a week out and I'm more worried about the commute up for short call than I am about my check ride:D:o Ferd |
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