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For all my Sierra Nevada Torpedo drinking brothers, a shout out from Mecca, Chico, CA, and the birthplace. Happy Easter guys! Fly safe.

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Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 1626189)

Thinking of using a "Fly confirmed for less" ticket as a backup to get to LHR in June. Can anyone tell me if those tickets are refundable? The online reference is a lot of mumbo jumbo.

They can't be used as a backup on the same flight even if you buy a refundable fare.

You and your eligible pass riders may not standby for a flight for which you or your pass riders hold or have ever held a confirmed reservation or ticket.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1626237)

http://www.mattderody.com/wp-content.../ladiesman.jpg

dude time flies. i used to stay up for the clamp show, sometimes I can still do it but i have been house broken.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1626286)

Yeth, hello caller..what might be your query?

Leon Phelps is back! Now will he be able to stay awake with a new baby in the house? :D

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626299)

It would improve the time to report however reduce the required time to respond. (Leash)

As a commuter, the most important thing to me is the time to report.

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1626238)

When is the last time you saw a paycheck in a orange envelope?

That would be 1983, in a basket at the end of the crew scheduling counter. My hero's were the guys with two or three envelopes in the basket. [Wisconsin farmers] C/S had the picture wall with all the Vietnam action photos.

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1626305)

Leon Phelps is back! Now will he be able to stay awake with a new baby in the house? :D

We'll see. In reaping my juniority, I have to get up at the bright and early hour of 0735 in the morning. :)

Luckily, I've got an awesome sleeper of a kid. He goes to bed at 2130 and usually gets up around 0900.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1626249)

Once you upgrade...another 5 minutes of two-engine taxi or 10 minutes of early APU start on every flight for the remainder of your career should put a dent in their $4000.

You might not have the money...but neither will they. :D

But soon, I'm sure they'll use Big Data to beat us down. Another year or two--in fact, probably just in time for the next Section 6--and captains will be getting pinged by the CP: "we see your APU burn time is 20% higher than average for this temperature on this aircraft at this airport. Why don't you take a week off to think about it?"

...and ALPA will threaten to think about possibly considering a weakly worded letter to explore the possibility of a grievance. :cool:

Can they tell how long you leave the gear down?

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1626313)

As a commuter, the most important thing to me is the time to report.

I agree, others may not.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626176)

I agree, we will also as mentioned see a lot more reroutes. I would pack for a 5 day trip every time.

Reroute is one of the worse sections of our contract! There should never be a reason for a pilot to "expect" to be rerouted outside of the footprint of their trip. I get the whole "beyond the companies control" B.S., but the problem is their ability to wave that B.S. in our face regularly. ANYTHING outside of a foot print of an assigned trip, be it resv or as a line holder, needs to be at double pay. There needs to be a penalty to the company for extending us and or in other words an incentive for them to get us back on time every time!
Sorry, I've been burned by the reroute bug more times than I care to admit and all was "legal" per our contract.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626302)

No, but it could be a backup on the last flight that would get us there for the tour start. We are planning to leave 3 days early. How can you tell if it is refundable? Here is what TravelNet says:

CHANGES/REFUNDS

FARE RULES TEXT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND UNITED KINGDOM DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX/Z K/ 3M/VS OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM. ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ / OK/ DL/AS/QX/ZK/3M/VS IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VI A ATLANTIC. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/AF/KL / AZ/ VS IN RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF ATDLR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 OR RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF TAPVR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POI NT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX -ONT LAX-BUR LAX-LGB LAX-SNA ONT-BUR ONT-LGB ONT -SNA BUR-LGB BUR-SNA LGB-SNA NYC-EWR

Now, what does that all mean?:cool:

The associated Fly for EVEN Less fare has the wording "This ticket is non-refundable" under it, which implies that the Fly Confirmed for Less fare would be refundable. You certainly can't read the above and verify that.