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johnso29 10-05-2009 01:01 PM

So for November the DTW 320B max line value is 87 hours. Seems kind of high. Guess it's time to recall me! :p

Please recall me. I miss the 320. :(

Sorry for the drift. Back to our regularly scheduled program. :D

sailingfun 10-05-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 689097)
The trip in question was assigned to him at 0030. He was put on a 0630 SC at 2030. I recall seeing it in the open time pot when he was converted. (or shortly there after)

If they put him on short call at 2030 he is now at rest until 0630 and has no obligation to answer the phone or acknowledge a trip until 0630. Scheduling is not normally willing to take a chance on when he might be able to report when they call him at that time. He certainly had no obligation to arrive at the airport prior to 0830 and it could be longer depending on traffic ect.. Trips often also bounce in and out of open time. They place a trip on a pilot schedule and he does not respond or calls in sick or the move him to another trip and that trip drops back into the pot. In general in the situation you mentioned they would GS the trip before taking the gamble on when the short call pilot can get to the airport.

KC10 FATboy 10-05-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 689388)
So for November the DTW 320B max line value is 87 hours. Seems kind of high. Guess it's time to recall me! :p

Please recall me. I miss the 320. :(

Sorry for the drift. Back to our regularly scheduled program. :D

No, that just means they'll have extra reserves around for the Holidays.

On a side note ... if you have Vacation Time and you DO NOT want to take it, is there anyway to sell it back or get trips during that time?

RockyBoy 10-05-2009 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 689272)
I think if this happens, you get credit for a short-call.

We used to get credit for a SC if a trip had a report time prior to 1200. When they droped the number of SC days down to six from eight, that provision was also dropped. So we no longer get a SC credit if they assign you a trip prior to 1200.
On another note, I had them assign me a 0500 SC the other day. It was on my schedule the day prior, but I never acknowledged it because I wanted to see when they would actually notify me of it since I have always just acknowledged via I-Crew. They finally called me at 0400 to notify me of a SC assignmnet that started one hour later. Since I already knew about it and wanted a SC credit, I just said OK. I did let them know that they should probably have notified me 11 hours earlier.

forgot to bid 10-05-2009 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 689372)
Perhaps DAL should recognize that there might be an issue with their kiosks. I'm just sayin...

The thought of beating up a kiosk crossed my mind when the two kiosks in B and two in A were both "Out of Paper, See a Represenative."

forgot to bid 10-05-2009 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 689388)
So for November the DTW 320B max line value is 87 hours. Seems kind of high. Guess it's time to recall me! :p

Please recall me. I miss the 320. :(

I want to fly the 320 too, my plan is to keep bashing it though to everyone here in the ATL. The more I do the more I hope it'll be easier to hold if it ever makes its way down here. :D

johnso29 10-05-2009 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 689445)
I want to fly the 320 too, my plan is to keep bashing it though to everyone here in the ATL. The more I do the more I hope it'll be easier to hold if it ever makes its way down here. :D

The A320 is a horrible airplane! To retain your sanity, stay away! Remember guys, if it ain't Boeing you ain't going!!!! :p

B7ER Guy 10-05-2009 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 689409)
On a side note ... if you have Vacation Time and you DO NOT want to take it, is there anyway to sell it back or get trips during that time?

Unfortunately no, if you're working under the DAL vacation rules.
You have to take it whether you like it or not. There have been LOA's signed in the past to let folks sell back their vacation time when the airline was short staffed in years prior. I just don't see that happening now.
Hope that helps!

hockeypilot44 10-05-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 689388)
So for November the DTW 320B max line value is 87 hours. Seems kind of high. Guess it's time to recall me! :p

Please recall me. I miss the 320. :(

Sorry for the drift. Back to our regularly scheduled program. :D

That's what I said. Unfortunately, I actually was recalled to it during our first AE. Back to reserve I guess.

sailingfun 10-05-2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by B7ER Guy (Post 689478)
Unfortunately no, if you're working under the DAL vacation rules.
You have to take it whether you like it or not. There have been LOA's signed in the past to let folks sell back their vacation time when the airline was short staffed in years prior. I just don't see that happening now.
Hope that helps!


I would not say unfortunately. I would say thank god you can't sell back your vacation. If we could we would have pilots furloughed. The ability to sell vacation and bid around vacation has cost us a huge number of jobs. Many on here scream about scope but they refuse to accept the reality of how many jobs have been lost to work rules. If tomorrow we changed vacation to pay and credit instead of pay and no credit they would have to post a AE for hundreds of Captains positions. Any junior pilot should put on his contract survey that vacation in the next contract becomes pay and credit.
The lack of concern over work rules and the massive job loss they have caused by junior pilots amazes me. I once had a new hire flying with me. He *****ed and *****ed about the fact that we had a cap and at his regional airline he could fly as much as he wanted. I asked him how much he would fly per month if we did not have a cap. He said he would often fly 100 hours. I said your wrong. If we did not have a cap you would fly 0 hours because you would be furloughed and on the street jobless. I still don't think he got it.


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