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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1636200)
So a discredited airline manager high on outsourcing told you a decade and a half ago ... same guy as crashed and burned Delta while spending a lot of his Executive's time engineering bankruptcy proof compensation packages for themselves and their buddies ... and we (labor) still buy it?
How about the 25 billion or so in acquisition costs, capex and strikes? I'm still not believing outsourcing is all that great a deal for Delta. No discredit to you. I never liked Leo or Fred. The RJ whipsawing philosophy gives them negotiating leverage against we Mainline guys too, just look how quickly we caved on low pay raises (4833), profit sharing give backs, and more 76 seat RJ scope in C2012! All Richard had to do was threaten to "Re-engine" the 50 seaters. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1631346)
BTW, the person(s) that negotiated the stipulation about GS#2 not being handed out until everyone had a shot at GS#1 need(s) to have a statue erected in their honor. That was a huge improvement.
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
(Post 1636147)
A few months back we mentioned a guy in mil unit getting hired with the cjo and then the next week getting called and "woah there we have a problem with your psych eval..."
Apparently this has happened to several folks and we were conjecturing they might have to meet a board or something. Turns out to be easier. It was the most intense and aganizing three weeks between the time I recieved the snail-mailed letter and the CTT phone call from the hiring department. Analyzing every one of the 600 odd MMPI questions and every word uttered on the couch, or was it the chair? Guess I chose poorly....:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by boog123
(Post 1636193)
Short call question,
In my "Bucket", I am the most senior and there are 4 people junior to me with no short calls or flight time for the month. I had a carry in trip worth a little credit. How did I get the short call for tomorrow? I thought it was inverse seniority within your bucket and days of availability? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Foulwx
(Post 1636177)
Wow. I haven't checked out his blog in quite a while, but I always noticed that while everything seemed interesting, nowhere did I read whether or not they were happy. We taught on the 320 at the same time years ago. I hope everything is going well for him.
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Well, now almost everyone is on shortcall so it's a moot point, but I think the other folks "junior to me" in the same bucket are just starting their first day of reserve, while Im on day 2 of 8, so I think they can not be on short call until 1200. Haven't been on reserve in years, so I guess it's gonna be a treat!!!
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
(Post 1636256)
I heard the story the other and then went and checked his blog, last entry was 2012. I flew with him just after he accepted job or knew he was going to and he was convinced we were going to liquidate. Told me I should get my app in while I could, sure glad I didn't.
Now he's back as an FO. It would be interesting to get his take on things. Do you think he regrets his move? I know I was very carefully considering doing the same thing. But, it never got so bad that I was willing to pull the plug. I think I probably made the right decision. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1636186)
In any case WRT to the whole DCI sitch, can we at least, finally, all collectively admit we were never going to re-committ/heavy check/re-engine the world's largest 50 seater fleet? If for no other reason than lack of pilots? Can we at least admit that?
Or, if we can't admit that, at LEAST admit that if we did attempt to do that, the current management team would be in major hot water over an already imploding decision with a million articles in every stock feed about how it was one of the biggest blunders of the modern age? We don't have to admit, accuse or even allege that anyone was duped or any bluff was fallen for or could have been called or whatever. But please can we finally admit they weren't going to re-engine the world's largest 50 seat RJ fleet and finally put that rhetoric behind us? |
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1635826)
That's exactly the way it was planned and happening at Delta. DCI was going to shrink from 600+ to 450 airframes over the term of C2012. I don't know what's going to happen at UAL and AAL, but I suspect those management teams are salivating at the opportunity of using non-performance to break contracts.
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Originally Posted by BoydKelly
(Post 1636239)
The late, great BMac. C66 leading up to C2K.
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