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dalad 05-04-2014 02:07 PM

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Incident: Delta B738 at Las Vegas on May 2nd 2014, rejected takeoff

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, May 3rd 2014 21:59Z, last updated Saturday, May 3rd 2014 21:59Z
A Delta Airlines Boeing 737-800, flight DL-2483 from Las Vegas,NV to Atlanta,GA (USA) with 160 passengers and 6 crew, had been cleared for immediate takeoff from Las Vegas' runway 25R at 14:32L (21:32Z). The aircraft was accelerating for takeoff when tower cancelled the takeoff clearance about 40 seconds after the clearance for takeoff. The aircraft rejected takeoff at high speed, slowed safely and vacated the runway via taxiway A5 about 7500 feet/2250 meters down the runway. The aircraft returned to the apron.

A replacement Boeing 737-800 registration N3757D reached Atlanta with a delay of 6:40 hours.

The FAA reported a private aircraft was on approach to a crossing runway prompting the air traffic controller to cancel the takeoff clearance as a precaution. Preliminary review of the radar data showed however that there was no conflict even if the takeoff had continued. I landed right after this apparently happened, the FO and I looked at each other when they were stopped on the taxiway for suspected hot brakes. We both said ****? The tower told them to abort? This is going to be interesting-maybe a CQ SPOT.

GogglesPisano 05-04-2014 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1636285)
I always wanted a sit and spin...I was just too old when they were invented. Now I just want no spin...

Here's one, Georgia-style.

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LivingTheDream 05-04-2014 02:55 PM

Hearing of talk at the board level about Hawaiian. Still think this makes the most sense... not only for Hnd, but more so for hub to asia/australia. Small enough to get by DOJ, but I bet state of Hawaii would fight it tooth & nail.

gloopy 05-04-2014 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1636187)
I don't keep up with the RJ stuff like I used to, but at one time Delta had the largest CF34 overhaul facility on the planet.

There is a 50 seat market. Some (probably about 120 or so) will stick around long term. The rub is that the 76 seater brings in > 50% more revenue at similar ~ 10 to 15% higher block hour and trip cost.



Bombardier and Embraer are good at keeping Delta's secrets. That' part of the deal. I am suprised Delta has not executed the order allowed under C2012 scope, after all gettng the large RJ's as swaps was a major part of that deal ... then, nothing.

Probably because they wanted the 717's (or the A319's…whatever) and were getting them anyway. Just look at how phenominal of a deal it was, and how much marketing loves the plane. They knew all this back then too. My point is they were nev-ver going to refurb the massive 50 seat fleet. And if they did they'd now be the laughing stocks of Wall Street. It doesn't matter if you have the machine shop capacity to do it or not. I'm sure they did. Its sure is nice to send the many hundreds we don't need (and never needed in the first place) to the desert without brand new engines and heavy checks though because the economics of it are pure POS and they don't have anyone to fly them anyway, isn't it?

I agree that there is a market to some limited extent for some airframes that size (heck, there's a market for big Globals/Gulfstreams…so much so we for some reason agreed to forgive a scope violation and allow non union pilots who were already violating our contract to own that flying), and its possible that a small number of the 50 fleet will at some point get new engines and maybe, just maybe a heavy check or whatever it was here or there.

But the threat to just go "all-in" with that many 50 seaters was an empty one. They were never going to do that, and they knew it then as well as they know it now.

EdGrimley 05-04-2014 03:17 PM

Gloopy, although the C-Series does seem to go against the normal RA checklist items for airplane purchase (ie new, untested airframe), why do you think he mentioned they could be in our future? I was surprised to hear it myself. Just more posturing to get a better deal from Boeing/Airbus?

gloopy 05-04-2014 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1636330)
Gloopy, although the C-Series does seem to go against the normal RA checklist items for airplane purchase (ie new, untested airframe), why do you think he mentioned they could be in our future? I was surprised to hear it myself. Just more posturing to get a better deal from Boeing/Airbus?

I'd say that's exactly why.

I guess "everything has a price" or whatever, so if they came to us with some sort of offer we couldn't refuse like say an unbelieveable price, extended warranty, guaranteed dispatch reliability with a DL friendly exit clause/compensation if it dissapointed, gold plated Cadillac AD insurance and no charge for the APU hours or something, I'm sure we'd do it.

I doubt any (re)fleeting need actively excludes something just to be stubborn. I just don't think the C is going to be remotely competitive. Their CEO has basically said many times he ain't coming off the price and he thinks he's sitting on a real gem…apparently no one else in the industry seems to agree.

Its possible I guess, but they are going to have to come hard to the paint. Right now they're standing behind the half court line under double coverage with half a second on the shot clock.

GogglesPisano 05-04-2014 03:26 PM

I give up, how does one load an animated gif?

cni187 05-04-2014 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1636316)
Hearing of talk at the board level about Hawaiian. Still think this makes the most sense... not only for Hnd, but more so for hub to asia/australia. Small enough to get by DOJ, but I bet state of Hawaii would fight it tooth & nail.

Dude just give it up, it will not happen!!

Timbo 05-04-2014 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1636364)
Dude just give it up, it will not happen!!

Hey, I've already got my HNL 717 bid in! :eek:

The A/E closes tomorrow, hurry, this opportunity won't last long! :D

forgot to bid 05-04-2014 05:21 PM

from dalad who took this pic in ATL...

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1ee54a47.png


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