Agreed. That said, the latest AE shows wide-body Captain vacancies. To the extent that those awarded positions show up on this banner, there will certain be new Captains awards being counted that are due to attrition.

Again, I understand the desire to counteract those who would argue that C2012 was a major give in QOL and career progression, but I'm not sure that this is the way to do it.

De-le-ted.

That would equate to a 26% raise in six months. While we would all be ecstatic with that, mgmt would agree to that....why?

Be careful what you ask for. We used to have something similar to that with the Variable Minimum (VM). It was not a "hard" min guarantee but could flex between 4-6.

The VM had to average 5 hours a day (ranging from 4-6). We exchanged it for the Duty Period Average that we have today of 5.15.

There were times when the VM was superior to the DPA, and times when the DPA was better. In the very very big aggregate picture I think the DPA comes out ahead.

But if we went to a hard min day guarantee, the company is not going to create the trips we are flying today identically, and just miraculously give us more hours of credit for the same flying. The trip mix will change. For some it may be much better, and for others worse. But if you are the kind of guy that likes to fly one leg LGA-MSP on day 3 and then you are done...that kind of trip, which is not unheard of under the DPA system, WILL be unheard of in a hard min day system.

Because they love us? After all, we've had our backpacks on for quite a while now. ;)

Good point. We would likely see few, if any, commutable domestic trips as the system does everything it can to soak up the daily minimum.

It seems vaguely desperate. As I've said, promotions are not pay raises. It will hurt us in the long run to view it as such. RA is a helluva chess player. One can infer a lot from how he moves pieces around. Defensively, he's set up for a more hostile pilot force, with sick leave monitoring and the like. He's placated us enough to prevent a major uprising, and he has his costs well in hand, knowing that under the RLA he has unlimited time and power.

The bottom line for us? Mediocrity in a time of record profits. Profits which shatter all expectations of what an airline transport corporation can achieve. And we reap nothing close to what our predecessors did during lesser times, despite the fact so much of it was achieved on our backs, as Timbo has pointed out. This is why 2012 was half baked. As the economy picks up steam, where will our profession lay on the compensation scale via a vis the more traditional ones? Just rhetorical questions... but have you seen what our VP's are making?

You mean we can't argue this: "When you guys (mgmt) wanted a new contract we were there for you, now we want a new contract so you're going to be there for us, right?"


Did the company just put out a 'not tonight pillow'?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UiQBMepXdH...00/tonight.jpg

:D

Perspective. Seeing a child on a "make a wish trip" the same age as your own.

It's not just seniority advancement, its growth. Per the bid monitor report

• Apr '13 Pay Hours 570,475
• Apr '14 Pay Hours 605,633
• Increase in pay hours 35,158
• Apr '13 CAs required 4,409
• Apr '14 CAs required 4,852
• Increase in CAs required 443
• Apr '13 FOs required 5,281
• Apr '14 FOs required 5,584
• Increase in FOs required 303
• Total staffing increase required YOY 746

With the large AE that was just posted, it looks like there will be 100s more Delta pilots advancing.