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newKnow 04-26-2014 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1630621)
Okay, let's think about this.

His airplanes say Delta Air Lines on them.

His passengers' tickets say Delta Air Lines on them.

Most importantly, his paychecks say Delta Air Lines. He's an employee of Delta Air Lines, Inc. If he comes over to the Delta Air Lines certificate, HR will consider it a rehire.


He's at DAL like it or not. If we don't want him on our seniority list or represented by our union or accruing longevity for his DAL service, that's on us and frankly pretty shortsighted & playing into management's hand. What's next, buying Alaska but not integrating their pilots & planes, sending 737s to whichever operator is cheaper? And then telling AS pilots they're not DAL and their input isn't relevant in this supposed DAL-pilots-only thread? Who would that benefit, exactly? Not us or them, right?

So what precisely is the difference with 9E pilots?


I'm not sure if the Comair pilots had "Delta Air Lines" on their paychecks, but aren't 9E pilots in the same position that they were?


Is there is anything that stops Delta from doing to 9E what they did to Comair?

Sink r8 04-26-2014 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1630552)
Not asking for his name or señorita number!! Just trying to do a little research, something he can't won't or doesn't know how to do, to determine where he is comjng up with more work less pay.
I gave my specific examples and his inability to "play along" shows his true colors.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1630419)
I'm not inclined to reveal. I've given several clues as to my seniority and background, and narrowing it down further defeats the purpose of an anonymous board. I'd hate for guys to judge me in person based on my sometimes outspoken persona here, which I don't believe is indicative of the "real life" me.

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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1630537)
Interesting. The thing I like least about APC is the anonymity. I stand behind what I say on the boards and would say the same to anyone's face. To be honest, I think the anonymous bit is, to be blunt, cowardly. That said, that's the rule of the game here and I try to play by the rules (most of the time.)

I don't know why, but posters are almost more interested in maintaining their anonymous name on APC, than they we were on the ALPA forum. It works well, especially considering the fact this is a public arena. Under no circumstances do I want my real name known to whatever trolls and lurks around here. If we were exclusively Delta pilots, with a firewall, I would be OK with it. As an alternative, if it was limited to ALPA pilots, with a firewall, I would also prefer using real names.

Bottom line, PD has the right to be anonymous, and it's not cowardly.

He also has no leg to stand on when he describes wage losses between 2012 and 2013.

Mesabah 04-26-2014 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1630799)
I'm not sure if the Comair pilots had "Delta Air Lines" on their paychecks, but aren't 9E pilots in the same position that they were?


Is there is anything that stops Delta from doing to 9E what they did to Comair?

Yes


and

No

Our purpose at 9E is to leech off Delta's resources to become as cheap as possible to whipsaw other carriers. ASA, Skywest, etc, have to match our costs, or their ASA is up for termination with Delta.

Wilbur Wright 04-26-2014 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1630806)

I don't know why, but posters are almost more interested in maintaining their anonymous name on APC, than they we were on the ALPA forum. It works well, especially considering the fact this is a public arena. Under no circumstances do I want my real name known to whatever trolls and lurks around here. If we were exclusively Delta pilots, with a firewall, I would be OK with it. As an alternative, if it was limited to ALPA pilots, with a firewall, I would also prefer using real names.

Bottom line, PD has the right to be anonymous, and it's not cowardly.

Well said. Fair enough, I retract my "cowardly" comment.

Purple Drank 04-26-2014 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1630806)
Under no circumstances do I want my real name known to whatever trolls and lurks around here. If we were exclusively Delta pilots, with a firewall, I would be OK with it. As an alternative, if it was limited to ALPA pilots, with a firewall, I would also prefer using real names.

Bottom line, PD has the right to be anonymous, and it's not cowardly.

Thanks for the backup sink!


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1630806)

He also has no leg to stand on when he describes wage losses between 2012 and 2013.

To clarify.... I never said I make less now. If I did, or if that was your perception, allow me to correct it now:

I did make more in 2013 than in 2012.

My point was that, especially when on reserve, I work more for the extra money, and I MUST work more. Manning is tighter due to C12 concessions, making it harder (impossible during summer and most weekends) to drop trips and reserve days (my heavily utilized method of improving QOL). For me, the extra days of work are not worth the marginally higher pay. Not by a damn sight.

What the DALPA regulars here refuse to acknowledge in my criticism of their C12 defensive perimeter is that my QOL and amount of time with my family has diminished. I'm not the only one. And QOL/time with the fam is far more important to me than a few extra bucks.

Nantonaku 04-26-2014 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc (Post 1630776)
Thx for the support.

Farmlover, we support you every time you log another hr of TMEL flying jets paid for by DL, burning fuel paid for by DL, filled with pax holding a DL ticket, serving city pairs that used to be served by mainline pilots.

Why the animosity? Do the right thing and bring that flying back to the "real" Delta. What is stopping you? You can't stomach the possible cut in your benefits? You can't have it both ways, on the one hand complain about the erosion of your career caused by regional carriers but at the end of the day take home large bonuses earned off the back of these same contract carriers. So what will it be?

Purple Drank 04-26-2014 10:31 AM

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sinca3 04-26-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1630830)
What the DALPA regulars here refuse to acknowledge in my criticism of their C12 defensive perimeter is that my QOL and amount of time with my family has diminished. And QOL/time with the fam is far more important to me than a few extra bucks.

I'm not a DALPA whatever, but you continue to not prove your complaints. I asked a general question, which I see no way of anyone figuring out who you are from it, but you won't answer it. In doing so I have no way to try and understand your logic!
Done, another Purple hater!

Purple Drank 04-26-2014 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1630839)
I'm not a DALPA whatever, but you continue to not prove your complaints. !

How should I prove to you that I worked more in 2013 than I did in 2012? Notarized timecard? Logbook copies?

Sorry to hear I'm off your Christmas card list. :(

LivingTheDream 04-26-2014 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 1630629)
"One Great Team" Pass help please!

Trying to book my spouse and I to Paris in a couple weeks. When I go try to list from "Point A, to a hub, to Paris" it shows 0 seats available. Now, when I check specifically from said "Hub" to Paris, there are seats. When I put in "Point A to Hub" there are seats available. Why then are there no seats from Point A to Paris? I don't get it and am getting frustrated. I can list on either leg, just not both of them together.

Errrrr :confused:

Pick up the phone immediately and call the travel bureau. I had a similar situation and they were successful where the computer was not. Good luck.


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