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cni187 12-14-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Spudhauler (Post 1539729)
Thanks, acl. That's what we need to start seeing movement for the bottom quarter of us who've been around for 13-16 years and haven't moved much.

Almost no movement out west where some of us want to be

WidgetDriver 12-14-2013 04:06 PM

Looks like the American pilots are trying to capture all of their RJ flying. What is DALPA doing? This could be a huge game changer.



From the APA SCOPE Committee

Many of you have seen the recent announcement by the corporation regarding the purchase order for 90 new 76-seat aircraft. Although this order has aircraft that are allowed under the current Scope Clause and appears to be in compliance with the restriction on these types of aircraft, APA has made it known to the "New American Airlines" that we are ready to resume talks for APA flying the E175 aircraft at the mainline. By bringing the E175 to the mainline, AAL will help bring our fellow pilots flying at the regionals to the mainline in a more expeditious manner. The pilot shortage is coming, and AAL has in its hands the ability to get ahead of the industry and secure a pilot force while the other airlines will lack the ability to man their regional feed as those pilots start to leave in droves for the majors.

Reasons for the flying to come to the mainline:

Pilot shortage
Ability to up-gauge A/C to >86k lbs and add seats
EMB Gen 2 E jets will add seats and weight
One-time hire for the mainline reduces churn and enhances pilot progression
Forward-looking has ability to lock up pilot stream
Keep it attractive to sustain the flow of pilots
More flexibility for AAL more seats on same a/c, APA flown
Goodwill building airline of the future
Get ahead of the industry in the present instead of playing catch-up later
CASM reduction revenue generator, more seats on same a/c

FIIGMO 12-14-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1539945)
Almost no movement out west where some of us want to be

You do realize that only 9er fans are allowed on the west coast.....

I live in Seattle, and yeah yeah yeah, they act like the already have 5 Lombardi's.... GMAFB:D

Purple Drank 12-14-2013 04:54 PM



Goodwill building airline of the future

That's just silly.

"goodwill" building with pilots is utterly dead in this industry. If the beancounters can't quantify it, management won't waste money on it.

case in point: cold (OK, room temperature) turkey sandwiches at Thanksgiving. A few dollars would have created a ton of goodwill. I guess it cost too much.

What the beancounters don't understand is that an under-appreciated pilot without "goodwill" can burn a lot of extra gas and **** off a lot of customers over the remainder of his career, making a few turkey buffets, etc. cheap by comparison. Where's his incentive to help the company earn record profits? watered-down profit sharing?

Be that as it may, the best way to build goodwill is to show us the money and some payback for our sacrifices. And that ain't happening.

Bucking Bar 12-14-2013 05:02 PM

I wish the APA luck.

Don't know what is happening with the US Air E190's. Heard they were traded to Republic in exchange for Republic backing a loan to US Air. However, post merger I would think a lot of the financial silliness will get sorted, or repaid early, just as we did.

PilotFrog 12-14-2013 05:10 PM

Will daytime layovers be gone with 117? Atl-slc sit 12 hrs leave slc at 0055.

scambo1 12-14-2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1539944)
Historically, how senior do you have to be in your category to get a GS? I've been on the property almost 7 years and have never been offered one (even with no qualifiers.)

If you are in a category that has plenty of greenslips, the biggest dis-qualifier is the part that asks minimum time to report. Always put zero (nothing) in there. When called (if you are a commuter) just let them know you want positive space. I put a 6 hour min day qualifier on mine, that keeps the LA turns and low time GS's away so when I get one its worth it.

That's just me. However generally in my cat, they stay in the top 10%.

80ktsClamp 12-14-2013 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Fivelegdaze (Post 1539832)
Ditto!

In other positive news, I just had a conversation in ops with an ATL 320 "FO" who is on track to make 250 g's this year. Evidently, he drops his entire month, then aggresively picks up greenslips the entire month which then doubles once the trigger has been met. He said that he is flying somewhat subpar trips but the pain seems to go away once the 15th of the month paycheck has been deposited.

Anyway, it's something to think about for any potential new hires with their sights set on a career at Delta.

I take it you met GA, eh? As has been stated, dropping to blank is good to get around FAR limitations. Green slip til you can't anymore, then whiteslip lower block time trips to make sure your GS's are double pay.

I'm nowhere near that! On track for just under 150... but it's been a lucritive year on our little ATL french fleet. Pretty much every trip on the ATL 320 is subpar, so there's not much change. :)

I just flew with the top earning captain again yesterday... he's going to be close to 400 for the year. Yowza!

80ktsClamp 12-14-2013 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1539979)
I wish the APA luck.

Don't know what is happening with the US Air E190's. Heard they were traded to Republic in exchange for Republic backing a loan to US Air. However, post merger I would think a lot of the financial silliness will get sorted, or repaid early, just as we did.

The 190s that they traded to Republic are all back at (or on their way back to) USair now.

forgot to bid 12-14-2013 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1539780)
As a copilot there's a lot of craziness. As a captain, you just look over at the copilot sweating and huffing and puffing as he's pushing and pulling levers, warming up the steam engine, and feeding the horde of angry monkeys in the avionics bay. You take a sip of your coffee, use both hands to turn the tiller, and ask the copilot if he's busy or something.

No you look at the FO and say "when you see the 757 takeoff, the one in front of us, go ahead and start the oth... excuse me let me sip some of my coffee... mmmm... you should have gone and got some... anyways, start it when goes. They have to give us two minutes separation and that's perfect for the warmup. I want to save fuel. Some of you FOs are all hot to trot about starting these engines, you're wasting money and taking money out of my profit check. What? Oh yeah, go ahead and start it, is it up yet? I need it. Tell him yes we're ready, what?

Oh fine, um..... okay let me see here, yes, first fix is... I mean wait, the departure is the Braves... where is the PDC?... okay, Braves departure and our first..... our first fix is......."

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