Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1630939)

Crazy rumor from another board...

Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1630917)

Not sure how we can raise the TLV and let Reserves fly to ALV+15 and it not affect staffing?

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1630914)

There have been no manning changes as a result of contract 2012. FO categories were overmanned prior to contract 2012 because of excellent no furlough provisions that forced Delta to keep a large surplus of pilots on the property. Keeping parroting your massive job loss from 2012 in spite of the facts won't make it true.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1630939)

Crazy rumor from another board...this should generate some fun. I don't believe it for a minute, but I know the contract extension is one of RAs favorite tools..,here goes...

The Company would like to extend our contract 2 years. And for this 2-year extension, they are willing to offer us a 10% pay increase in Year 1, and another 10% increase in Year 2.

However, no one should believe that the Company is willing to do this out of any altruism towards us. We are already at, or very near to the highest paid pilots in the industry, so why would they put us further in front of our colleagues at our competitors?

The reason is: Parker won't be able to keep his pilot pay at 60% of ours forever. American has a "Pay Parity" mechanism with UAL and DL approaching in 2016 (according to APC). And given that we're making tons of money now, Delta can afford to pay us that extra money, but when our payrates translate into the AAG payrates, AAG will be financially stressed.

Anderson is playing three-dimensional chess.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1630939)

Crazy rumor from another board...this should generate some fun. I don't believe it for a minute, but I know the contract extension is one of RAs favorite tools..,here goes...

The Company would like to extend our contract 2 years. And for this 2-year extension, they are willing to offer us a 10% pay increase in Year 1, and another 10% increase in Year 2.

However, no one should believe that the Company is willing to do this out of any altruism towards us. We are already at, or very near to the highest paid pilots in the industry, so why would they put us further in front of our colleagues at our competitors?

The reason is: Parker won't be able to keep his pilot pay at 60% of ours forever. American has a "Pay Parity" mechanism with UAL and DL approaching in 2016 (according to APC). And given that we're making tons of money now, Delta can afford to pay us that extra money, but when our payrates translate into the AAG payrates, AAG will be financially stressed.

Anderson is playing three-dimensional chess.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1630939)

Crazy rumor from another board...this should generate some fun. I don't believe it for a minute, but I know the contract extension is one of RAs favorite tools..,here goes...

The Company would like to extend our contract 2 years. And for this 2-year extension, they are willing to offer us a 10% pay increase in Year 1, and another 10% increase in Year 2.

However, no one should believe that the Company is willing to do this out of any altruism towards us. We are already at, or very near to the highest paid pilots in the industry, so why would they put us further in front of our colleagues at our competitors?

The reason is: Parker won't be able to keep his pilot pay at 60% of ours forever. American has a "Pay Parity" mechanism with UAL and DL approaching in 2016 (according to APC). And given that we're making tons of money now, Delta can afford to pay us that extra money, but when our payrates translate into the AAG payrates, AAG will be financially stressed.

Anderson is playing three-dimensional chess.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1630948)

I'll give credit to DALPA for protection, but you make it sound like the company wanted to furlough and would no matter what. Sometimes ALPA's taking credit for anything and everything while dismissing any responsibility for things that don't work out in our favor gets a little annoying.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1630939)

Crazy rumor from another board...this should generate some fun. I don't believe it for a minute, but I know the contract extension is one of RAs favorite tools..,here goes...

The Company would like to extend our contract 2 years. And for this 2-year extension, they are willing to offer us a 10% pay increase in Year 1, and another 10% increase in Year 2.

However, no one should believe that the Company is willing to do this out of any altruism towards us. We are already at, or very near to the highest paid pilots in the industry, so why would they put us further in front of our colleagues at our competitors?

The reason is: Parker won't be able to keep his pilot pay at 60% of ours forever. American has a "Pay Parity" mechanism with UAL and DL approaching in 2016 (according to APC). And given that we're making tons of money now, Delta can afford to pay us that extra money, but when our payrates translate into the AAG payrates, AAG will be financially stressed.

Anderson is playing three-dimensional chess.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1630950)

I asked a rep if we have had any talk of a contract extension. He stated no such discussions are happening. I can see RA thinking this was a good idea but I would imagine he would wait until closer to the pay reset dates. A 20 percent raise to the pilots would also require a significant raise for the non contracts to prevent a mutiny and the end of our current excellent operational status. It may happen but I bet he wants 3 years and offers 4 percent a year max.