Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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You really need to go back and look at what happened to the other employee groups at Delta. Entire groups had their jobs eliminated and outsourced never to return. Thousands of other employees had their jobs reclassified to DGS or DSS or whatever the name is now at much lower pay and benefits. Staffing in jobs that remained Delta has been slashed. Delta's non pilot costs are well below their pilot costs relative to the industry. You really don't want to compare your pay and benefits to the non pilot employees if your seeking improvements!
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I often see posts from pilots who feel they are the only ones who have suffered and the other employees have not made sacrifices. It's simply not true and shows a lack of respect for non pilot employees and what they have also been through.
For a category that is supposedly going to start big-time shrinkage in the fall, that's a surprise. Sure, we are short ERB's right now, but nobody that gets it on this award will be in place in time to help out before things start drawing down in the fall. I'd like to think it's because the shrinkage is shrinking, so to speak.
You really need to go back and look at what happened to the other employee groups at Delta. Entire groups had their jobs eliminated and outsourced never to return. Thousands of other employees had their jobs reclassified to DGS or DSS or whatever the name is now at much lower pay and benefits. Staffing in jobs that remained Delta has been slashed. Delta's non pilot costs are well below their pilot costs relative to the industry. You really don't want to compare your pay and benefits to the non pilot employees if your seeking improvements!
I'm always willing to learn. Give me some examples. Who had their careers turned into a job? What kind of life were they looking at having in the 80's & 90's and how has that changed now?
Thanks in advance. (No exclamation needed.)
I've enjoyed every Ken Burns production I've seen, although he did kind of lose me with "Jazz". Probably because I'm not much of a Jazz fan. His series on Prohibition was really well done and I learned quite a few things that I never knew about how they managed to convince the whole country to vote away their booze.
I watched some of the World War series last night...seemed like history for people with attention deficit disorder. Pretty darn thin on content, but if you're going to do two world wars in three episodes, you probably don't have much choice. The "acting" was pretty awful.
I watched some of the World War series last night...seemed like history for people with attention deficit disorder. Pretty darn thin on content, but if you're going to do two world wars in three episodes, you probably don't have much choice. The "acting" was pretty awful.
You seem to be a man in search of an argument that isn't there.
Where exactly did I say that we were the only employee group that suffered? Where did I say the other employee groups haven't made sacrifices?

In fact, I think I said we've given more than our fair share. Which, you should see, by it's very nature, implies that other groups gave in some way, as well. Ie. Our share was only a part of what the company got, get it?
For you to insinuate that I don't acknowledge what the non-pilot employee groups "have been through" when there is nothing I have said to indicate that is how is feel, is disrespectful and misleading on your part.
Before going off the deep end to protect something that isn't being attacked, next time, take the time to read what I wrote, first.
Thanks, in advance.
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