Originally Posted by sailingfun

Well to start there was Black Monday in the late nineties where 5000 employees were let go on one day. The ramp once was a career job at Delta that payed well. Now they are all DGS people working for just above minimum wage. Gate agents have seen a large reduction in jobs with increased automation. Flights once worked with two or three agents now have one. Kiosks replaced a bunch of jobs at the front of the airport. Many of the agents left are part time. Basically the entire ground training department was let go and replaced with cd's and flash drives. Flight attendants suffered as large or larger job loss as pilots going from 20,000 down to about 12,000 premerger with large work rule changes. Crew scheduling like the ramp went from a well paying career job to off the street hires at half the pay and benefits. I can go on and on but let's just leave it at with the exception of management the last 15 years have been ugly.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

For a category that is supposedly going to start big-time shrinkage in the fall, that's a surprise.

Originally Posted by Whidbey

I keep hearing about a huge bid coming this fall. Lots of captain spots and the beginning of staffing adjustments for the new 330s.

If a drawdown is planned in the ER categories, maybe the plan is for it to be in terms of folks bidding up and out rather than pushing guys out the bottom?

One can hope.

Originally Posted by Whidbey

I keep hearing about a huge bid coming this fall. Lots of captain spots and the beginning of staffing adjustments for the new 330s.

If a drawdown is planned in the ER categories, maybe the plan is for it to be in terms of folks bidding up and out rather than pushing guys out the bottom?

One can hope.

Originally Posted by newKnow

Sailing,

You seem to be a man in search of an argument that isn't there.

Before going off the deep end to protect something that isn't being attacked, next time, take the time to read what I wrote, first.

Originally Posted by scambo1

...As for herk and the other new guys from the military, your arrival into the airline will require something of a sea change in your thought process. Your new way of thinking has to be non-managerial and realize you are a technician pilot, not a management trainee. In commercial aviation, know your contract so you can maximize your income...don't just agree with whatever your union says is best for you. If a contract change (proposal) doesn't meet the sniff test of either giving you more money or more time off (preferably both), it isn't good.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

For a category that is supposedly going to start big-time shrinkage in the fall, that's a surprise. Sure, we are short ERB's right now, but nobody that gets it on this award will be in place in time to help out before things start drawing down in the fall. I'd like to think it's because the shrinkage is shrinking, so to speak.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I heard superpilot didn't acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior to departure on LC, and he didn't get a PD because he's just that good.

Originally Posted by newKnow

I wish I could find that pic of the dual engine failure our instructor gave him to fly into Quito. I guess he knew Super needed a challenge. He still made it look easy.