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sailingfun 06-04-2014 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1657923)
Call the CLCP for your category. The scheduler works with and for the CLCP. If you get no help (unlikely) then call Ed S. Missing a graduation for an OE is stupid. The planner can swap a couple of pilots around with minimal fuss.

After it's been fixed at a lower level, send an email detailing the scheduler's intransigence to Ed S. The scheduler needs a little more light to shine on his cubicle.

Please take the advise given above. This guy has been a long term problem.

Hixdog 06-04-2014 05:38 AM

Big Guns, PWA Section 23 A.1 lays out the carry over rotations

Purple Drank 06-04-2014 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1657894)
I have had them shortened often.

"often?"
I call bull****.

Sink r8 06-04-2014 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1657901)
Anyone know if you change categories do you get to keep your vacation?

Might be a good idea to look at the contract, not just APC, but since I was wondering the same thing... Looks like 7.C.7 says you do get to keep your vacation, unless it conflicts with training, in which case it depends on whether you asked to retain it and whether the company can honor the request, in seniority order.

That's how I read it. How about you?

sailingfun 06-04-2014 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1657938)
"often?"
I call bull****.

If I bid a 4 day domestic carry out trip the last day is dropped at least ⅓ of the time. No penalty to the company and no pay protection. Not sure why you would state that is BS. In fact there have been numerous posts by pilots on here about carry out trips getting shortened and losing layovers they wanted. I guess that's all BS also.

caddis 06-04-2014 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1657729)
Guys,

I have a flight with a LCA this month. Originally I was going to use PB Days to drop it with pay, but then I thought I might get lucky and be bumped for an IOE.

Its kind of moot now - reserve coverage went negative for those days and so I used my PB days to drop a different trip.

I am curious about there being any way to know ahead of time if an IOE is being planned or scheduled? I think I will get a call the night before the trip if I get bumped, but are there perhaps any telltale notes on the rotation that might be revealing?

Thanks Scoop


Scoop,

I am on my third trip bought off in as many months. Here is how you can tell if it is being bought. On icrew go in and look at your schedule if you see an " L " next to the flight number it is going to be used for training. You usually will see it a couple weeks out but I have had some last minute stuff in the past where part of the trip was bought.

I will say thank you to DALPA for getting rid of the recovery obligation I have done GS flying over 2 of 3 trips and a WS over the other.

BigGuns 06-04-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1657965)
If I bid a 4 day domestic carry out trip the last day is dropped at least ⅓ of the time. No penalty to the company and no pay protection. Not sure why you would state that is BS. In fact there have been numerous posts by pilots on here about carry out trips getting shortened and losing layovers they wanted. I guess that's all BS also.

Fine shorten or changed, who cares, but why is lengthened even entertained by our union!?

FYI United gets pay protection and spill trips go senior because they can double dip.

BigGuns 06-04-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Hixdog (Post 1657934)
Big Guns, PWA Section 23 A.1 lays out the carry over rotations

Thanks,
I guess I understand a one day extension for international but absolutely not for domestic.

10000 06-04-2014 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 1657966)
Scoop,

I am on my third trip bought off in as many months. Here is how you can tell if it is being bought. On icrew go in and look at your schedule if you see an " L " next to the flight number it is going to be used for training. You usually will see it a couple weeks out but I have had some last minute stuff in the past where part of the trip was bought.

I will say thank you to DALPA for getting rid of the recovery obligation I have done GS flying over 2 of 3 trips and a WS over the other.

If the L next to the flight number is for a augmented flight to Europe and the note says "TO RECV 7ER TRNS FO TOE"
is the individual pilot qualified during TOE or does the original crew have to stay on the trip?
If the CA goes on break is the student considered qualified to stay?

Mem9guy 06-04-2014 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1657965)
If I bid a 4 day domestic carry out trip the last day is dropped at least ⅓ of the time. No penalty to the company and no pay protection. Not sure why you would state that is BS. In fact there have been numerous posts by pilots on here about carry out trips getting shortened and losing layovers they wanted. I guess that's all BS also.

I just had a 4 day that carried out 2 days in to July shortened to a 3 day. It is now a crappy 3 day worth only 13 and change...


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