Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-28-2014, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is very interesting.
06-28-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
You're flying with NERD this weekend huh?
I was referring to NERD's FO who is apparently "itching" for a reason to walk off. If in his professional opinion he should not extend (yes for any reason) then he should not agree to continue. That was not the impression that I got from NERD's post.
To blatantly look for a reason to disturb the operation isn't helping any of us. Since you like flying with guys like that, can I assume you're of the same mindset that it's okay to look for reasons ("itch") to "walk away."
^^^^This is a separate conversation from the acceptance of an extension. I'm talking about a guy that is looking to cause problems. If your personal policy is to never extend because you think our duty days are long enough (and therefore unsafe) then fine, but actively looking/itching for a reason to walk off a trip is a whole different animal. I'd like to think we're better than that.
I was referring to NERD's FO who is apparently "itching" for a reason to walk off. If in his professional opinion he should not extend (yes for any reason) then he should not agree to continue. That was not the impression that I got from NERD's post.
To blatantly look for a reason to disturb the operation isn't helping any of us. Since you like flying with guys like that, can I assume you're of the same mindset that it's okay to look for reasons ("itch") to "walk away."
^^^^This is a separate conversation from the acceptance of an extension. I'm talking about a guy that is looking to cause problems. If your personal policy is to never extend because you think our duty days are long enough (and therefore unsafe) then fine, but actively looking/itching for a reason to walk off a trip is a whole different animal. I'd like to think we're better than that.
Remember who you were talking to, and that explains it all.
06-28-2014, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
Hey,
I asked the question the other day but didn't get the answer I was necessarily looking for...
When you switch jets is the pay during training at the old jet rate or new jet rate?
Thanks...
I asked the question the other day but didn't get the answer I was necessarily looking for...
When you switch jets is the pay during training at the old jet rate or new jet rate?
Thanks...
06-28-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
When you switch jets is the pay during training at the old jet rate or new jet rate?
06-28-2014, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Don't forget that the :30 postflight does not count for FARs as rest or duty so you can go to 13:30 before extending or 15:30 after extending. You are 2:04 away from extending and 4:04 away from being done involuntarily.
06-28-2014, 07:52 AM
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Also glad to see alfa posting again.
06-28-2014, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I hate FAR 117. I believe it was a huge step back in rest issues and causes more fatigue. It looked good on paper until you read about the 2 hour extension and not including postflight in duty period which essentially extends every table 2:30. There's a reason why no airlines had to increase manning when it came out.
Hockeypilot,
Yes, the new FAR 117 is a cumbersome and poorly written document that missed the target completely. Unfortunately it was crafted with input from pilot types who have very little "actual" time on the line. I have very little respect for their years of flying a desk and then telling you they know what is best for you.
I can't speak to the domestic front, but the international arena has been bastardized completely. Especially the requirement for the landing pilot to have a two hour rest in the last half of the FDP. Sleep inertia is a dangerous thing that is often overlooked. In the past, our FOM was written to provide the flexibility in having the most alert pilot in the crew operating the controls. Now there is much less of a chance of being assured you have the best one at the controls. Where has common sense gone?
Fly safe,
OC
06-28-2014, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Thanks to Southwestern Airlines for not raising the bar! 
Perhaps they'll fall for a "sign this and we'll grow" deal. Worked for Delta.
06-28-2014, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
yes, I do.
06-28-2014, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Alfaromeo,
I'm glad to see you again.
FTB
I'm glad to see you again.
FTB
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