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shiznit 06-28-2014 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1673748)
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2462709.jpg

You know I was looking at this picture and the first thing that popped into my mind was... can a 739 do this route?

I am telling you my idea is a good one, something wide for these long thin routes.

Go 782.

Huh? 739? There's an airplane in that picture?

Alan Shore 06-28-2014 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1673752)
Just wait until they start using wheel spin up for block time. That's another 5-15 minutes per flight per day of lost block time merely by using a lawyer wordsmith trick. Who knows, maybe they'll even double up with tow ins at every gate too. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how you get 5-15 minutes per flight here. We're talking about the difference between when we've historically turned the beacon on and when the airplane actually begins to push back, right? I've rarely known that to be more than 1-2 minutes, absent a ramp delay of some sort. Even then, we'll only be losing time if the flight goes over scheduled block, right?

Regarding tow-ins, that counts as flight time as surely as pushback does.

Farmlover 06-28-2014 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1673808)
I'm not sure how you get 5-15 minutes per flight here. We're talking about the difference between when we've historically turned the beacon on and when the airplane actually begins to push back, right? I've rarely known that to be more than 1-2 minutes, absent a ramp delay of some sort. Even then, we'll only be losing time if the flight goes over scheduled block, right?

Regarding tow-ins, that counts as flight time as surely as pushback does.

I believe it's when the bird moves under it's own power.

Alan Shore 06-28-2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1673814)
I believe it's when the bird moves under it's own power.

Not according to the contract:

“Block time” means the time beginning when an aircraft first moves for the purpose of
flight or repositioning and ending when the aircraft comes to a stop at the next destination or at the point of departure.


Note the absence of the qualifier of movement "under its own power."

buzzpat 06-28-2014 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1673780)
Ftb,

Do me a favor; zoom this picture, crop and repost. Aim for the bottom (no pun intended)
please. THank you.:D

TEN

Best. Post. Of. The. Day.

Dear Lord FTB, please listen to TYG!!

sailingfun 06-28-2014 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1673773)
They should have never gave up the additional 76 seat jets, however, that point is probably moot now that DCI is coming apart. Sailingfun is right about C2012, that restructure money would likely not be on the table now.

The total number of allowed 76 seat jets was reduced in contract 2012.

Bucking Bar 06-28-2014 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1673748)
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2462709.jpg

I am telling you my idea is a good one, something wide for these long thin routes.

Go 782.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...d_hit_it12.jpg

Bucking Bar 06-28-2014 03:09 PM

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...4071883303.jpg

OK aircraft ID fans. Have at it.

buzzpat 06-28-2014 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1673839)

The one on top is a Twin Otter.

Alan Shore 06-28-2014 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1673835)
The total number of allowed 76 seat jets was reduced in contract 2012.

Technically, yes, but not universally. As it was, we were frozen at 153, with no way to increase without trading in an equal number of 70-seaters AND increasing mainline airframes above a certain number. Now, Delta can add 76-seaters simply by buying 717's (which they arguably might have done anyway) without having to trade in 70-seaters.

That said, there was a way to get to 255 76-seaters under the old contract, and now Delta is limited to a maximum of 223.


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