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I do not believe that is correct. It was my understanding from the roadshows that it added about $400M per year, including concessions such as profit sharing reduction, but not including any RJ savings.

Carl Spackler

07-16-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1685563)

Also, it's amazing how no one who subscribes to your point of view ever seems to violate the TOS.

We'll have to keep an eye on this problem. DALPA cannot stand communication that doesn't comport with their view. APC is proving to be a powerful venue that DALPA can't yet control. If they start to use moderators like johnso29 for censorship purposes, we need to let APC leadership know.

Carl

johnso29

07-16-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1685566)

Yup. It's a typo error. My rep told me $1 billion over 3 years. Which matches what the info from the road shows. Fat fingers strike again. :D

johnso29

07-16-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1685563)

$3 billion over 3 years. I assume that includes the profit sharing giveaway. :rolleyes:

$3 billion. Show me your math.

$3 billion. Have you any concept of $3 billion.

Good luck with your credibility on the C15 campaign. Better get a new screen name.

I don't need credibility. I'm just a simple line pilot. Nice job proving me wrong though. Still waiting.

johnso29

07-16-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1685567)

You go ahead and do that Carl. Report away. DALPA is controlling APC now!!!!

johnso29

07-16-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1685562)

You're the one touting that pure unproven nonsense. Post your evidence...sans the Pom Poms.

Carl

My evidence has already been presented to the pilot group ad nauseum. Where's your proof? Let me guess. Management said it was a cost neutral contract? I guess you believe everything management says? Just like how the 737-900ER order was capacity neutral? Is mainline growing?

It's really sad how you think I actually care about your little jabs. Pom poms? Please. You and PD must be in a club together.

Purple Drank

07-16-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1685571)

Fat fingers strike again. :D

New ALPA technique: when called out while trying to float a new bogus number, blame "fat fingers." Then demand that the other guy prove your irrational math.

Any questions, please PM 3bil.

Alan Shore

07-16-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1685567)

DALPA cannot stand communication that doesn't comport with their view.

It's been my impression that our reps have no issue with varying points of view, merely those who state varying points of truth. We can happily agree to disagree on our various opinions of a given set of facts. The trick is to first agree on what those facts are, and express our opinions in terms of those facts as opposed to some exaggerated version of the truth.

Since I joined this forum last year, I have read posts from both sides of a number of issues. Some of these posts stuck to the facts but others strayed just a bit too far from the truth to be considered credible, IMO.

johnso29

07-16-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1685578)

New ALPA technique: when called out while trying to stretch the bounds of credibility, blame "fat fingers."

Any questions, please PM 3Bbil.

Still waiting for your proof. Not surprising that you've been unable to provide any. Typical PD. Can't prove it, so he deflects and insults. Changing your screen name won't help at all.

80ktsClamp

07-16-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1685524)

The Company is growing thanks to 900s and 330s that were coming anyway, and 717s that might or might not have come anyway had C2012 not happened. We are hiring because we need more pilots to fly that growth,to replace those who are retiring, because C2012 does not seem to have saved much (if anything) in pilots required, and because FAR 117 increased pilots required.

Bingo. UA and US have been hiring like gangbusters for years now- A 2011 hire at US can hold the 330. Is that due to C2012, too?

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