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Fly4hire 07-16-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1685367)
That's a fair criticism.

In this case I am told (by web board sources) that a negotiator and MEC Chair accepted a deal that was below MEC direction. However, it is significant that the MEC then accepted it. The MEC could have struck it down and the pilots could have struck it down. None did, so it is a deal.

I see this as more of a demand, offer, and compromise agreement. If the counter offer is accepted, it does not much matter what the demand was.

Since there is nothing we can do about the past, other than learn from it, then you need to provide guidance to your Reps. If you feel the protocol issues (perhaps engaging in negotiations outside the scope of one's authority) is significant enough, perhaps you might tell your Reps that you don't want that person to serve in a similar capacity, or in a position where they are in contact with senior leadership directly representing the pilots.

My point is, the past is the past. Better to look forward.

The MEC didn't just "accept", it's was after a week of severe arm twisting and stroking that on the 7th sequestered day of that MEC meeting they finally got the votes to to send it out to MEMRAT. If they could have had the votes sooner they would have. There was considerable debate about sending it back. Yes, it was accepted at the end of the day but with misgivings even among some of the faithful, which led to the defeat of OM due to the fallout of the process breakdown.

I agree about looking forward, but we can I'll afford the same tactics and skewed interests to influence C2015. History doesn't repeat itself, but it frequently echoes. I also agree we need to get behind our MEC and NC, with a (metaphorical) gun at their back if needed.

scambo1 07-16-2014 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1685412)
Me.........

I think all those violence for the sake of violence movies show absolutely no creativity on the part of the director producer and actors. jmho

And pulp fiction sucked too.

Now you've done it.

Pulp fiction was one of the top 10 movies of all time. In fact, Tarantino hasn't made a movie that isn't in the top 50...except dusk to dawn and that was Robert rodriguez's fault.

I'll sign you up for the sleepless in Seattle, Gone with the wind, English patient marathon. ... Long walks on the beach, quiet evenings at home ... I just want to be held ...well baby, you got the bonus plan.

FIIGMO 07-16-2014 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1685412)
Me.........

I think all those violence for the sake of violence movies show absolutely no creativity on the part of the director producer and actors. jmho

And pulp fiction sucked too.


Surely you are not going to include SNATCH in that list?:eek:

Anytime " jumbo ****ing jet " is used in a movie line, it is epic! Well, to me anyway!:D

tsquare 07-16-2014 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1685419)
Now you've done it.

Pulp fiction was one of the top 10 movies of all time. In fact, Tarantino hasn't made a movie that isn't in the top 50...except dusk to dawn and that was Robert rodriguez's fault.

Sorry. I didn't find any redeeming qualities to the movie whatsoever. A guy getting his brains blown out in the backseat if the car is not comical by any stretch of the imagination. We will have to agree to disagree, but you can have the last word on it.

Ps. Tarrantino is a talentless hack.

Mesabah 07-16-2014 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1685334)

The next 45 years. The Saturn V - 900
http://i62.tinypic.com/ket0sy.jpg

tsquare 07-16-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1685428)

I wish that were true, but I wouldn't hold my breath :(

FIIGMO 07-16-2014 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1685425)
Sorry. I didn't find any redeeming qualities to the movie whatsoever. A guy getting his brains blown out in the backseat if the car is not comical by any stretch of the imagination. We will have to agree to disagree, but you can have the last word on it.

Ps. Tarrantino is a talentless hack.

But T , you do have friends in the 818, just sayin!

TheManager 07-16-2014 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1685412)
Me.........

I think all those violence for the sake of violence movies show absolutely no creativity on the part of the director producer and actors. jmho

And pulp fiction sucked too.

he doesn't agree with you

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And I don't either. Great movie. And Goodfellas? Really?

What do you like T?

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...14,317_AL_.jpg

scambo1 07-16-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1684837)
From the Crew Resources Update:
Total block hours are up 1.6% from January 2012 to January 2014

From the Bid Monitor Report:
Total pilots required under the staffing formula January 2012 -- 9,219
Total pilots required under the staffing formula January 2014 -- 9,817
Total pilots required is up 6.5% from January 2012 to January 2014

What am I missing? We were told at the roadshows that C2012 would cost us about 125 jobs, given a static number of block hours.

You want your head to explode?

Next year, preliminary reports are that block hours are supposed to be 6-7% higher than this year.

gloopy 07-16-2014 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1685412)
Me.........

I think all those violence for the sake of violence movies show absolutely no creativity on the part of the director producer and actors. jmho

And pulp fiction sucked too.

Pulp was overrated (Jackie Brown was way better anyway, but since it was second the attention span of the fickle trendy movie goer was already tapped out by then). However the Ezeliel 25 17 scene was pretty good you gotta admit.


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