It's a valid question. Why treat it with mockery just because you don't see the value in what we had before it was given away?

I really don't see how this even benefits the company to make reserve more difficult for pilots. If I were on reserve and had to come in the night before because I couldn't be out of contact for two hours I still wouldn't be showing up at airport any sooner.

 

My question is this. How do we get rid of the long term bureaucrats? (Btw we had a lot of powerful behind the scenes guys at Nwalpa too) Each LEC has a election every (3?) years, so there is a way for the line pilot to affect turnover. How do we, the line pilots help in the cleansing/turnover of the committee positions?

It may be time for alpha, buzz and the gang to take a break and go fly. Whether any of us agree with their positions, we all should thank them for their time and wish them good luck.

 

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Not familiar with UCAL

They will already surpass us in January 2015. By January 2017, they surpass our A330 A's by $40 per hour.

They are mired currently in negotiations. This is the true bell weather to watch.

Gary wants PBS. Delta got it in BK for essentially free. SWAPA pilots want a considerable pay raise for it. Gary says there is no $.

Pilots rightly are pointing to savings from PBS as well as revenue lost at the check-in counter vis a vis bag fees.

They are not budging on PBS without considerable pay increases as they will keep trips touching for now, thank you very much.

Fred Smith having same issue at FDX. Wants PBS. Doesn't want to pay up for it as DAL didn't. Then his service failures started happening and now he is changing his tune.


Is the captain rep feeding this bull crap, again? I'd think the FO rep has enough intelligence to not publicly state that, but then again...

Regardless, think about it. Put your RA hat on. He would never do such a thing for the reason given.

 

You do realize UAL has higher hourly rates on some aircraft than we do today? I.e. 767-400.

And their rates will all exceed our 1/1/15 rates by 3% on 1/1/17 not 2018.

 

Actually, I never called anyone too stupid or lazy or weak. My point was that we had a full pilot vote. The only way you can call that non-democratic is if you believe that the pilots are too stupid or lazy or weak to make a rational decision. My assertion is that I have complete confidence in the pilots to decide their own fate. Once they vote, I accept the vote and move on. I don't try to make up conspiracy theories or excuses about why I lost the vote. In fact, my history shows that if I lose a vote I back the winner and provide any assistance possible. That is how you build a strong organization. If you try to rip it apart every time your personal desires are not satisfied then you are making us all weaker. It is not about you, it is about the group. Leadership is pitching in full force even when you don't get your way.

62%-38% or whatever the final number was, I forget now, that is a powerful democratic response that the pilots accepted this contract. If a candidate for President won by that margin it would be called a mandate from the people.

 

Alpha, Buzz, et al, and the unelected, long term bureaucratic hanger ons, are basicly this:



Penguins! Birds with wings for no apparent reason. See, they are even sitting on their 92 hour FPL, plus allowance, on of course the highest equipment they can hold, nest eggs!

They're soooo cute.

In all seriousness now as I jest above, we have long time lifers in our union for two reasons.

Money. We are all motivated by it. Face it. They have just been collecting a disproportionate chunk over the many years.

Power. And with that ego. Some are desperately trying to measure up to the successes that others they are close to in life have achieved. They will cling to power in every attempt to try and attain that.

Kick one or two legs out from the stool and the paradigm is crushed.

 

The Honey Skunk!!

It's like a badger......only stankier.

 

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That's somewhat unfair. Reality is they have stepped up out of selfless/ selfish reasons or both. Out of 12000 pilots, it is the same guys always involved and that says something about us too(Maybe we need to get off our asses and get involved some). Just some shifting of committees or to rep status. They have taken the time to get involved and stay involved and know the system well and how to use it to get what "they" believe "we" should get. I think some have been doing the business so long that they have a disdain for the average pilot and how dare anyone question their judgement.