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Old 07-19-2014, 03:08 PM
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Old 07-19-2014, 03:16 PM
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I like both sides of the story and you do offer another perspective which can be good. It's just too much of an us versus them mentality with you which may come from somewhere in your career that I can't fathom.
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There's room for civil disagreement on the way we achieve it without belittling and name calling. We know what we've lost.
You know man, you'd have more credibility with me if I could recall anything from you except rock solid agreement with DALPA on all things. And with regard to belittling and divisiveness, well...

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ACL, Carl has an agenda and you're on the other side so you're a target...

...I'd rather see your opinions and your usual informative posts then you trying to repel attacks from a red book whale guy..
Just sayin.

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Old 07-19-2014, 03:16 PM
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I can't dispute anything you wrote, here.



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Old 07-19-2014, 03:17 PM
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Dude, you are hilarious!


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Old 07-19-2014, 03:34 PM
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Actually, I was told that it had to do with the fact that European labor contracts are not public documents in the same sense that our are, and that they are generally held very close to the vest.

I am not certain whether that remains the case or not.
Either way how hard can it be to find someone to kick it across the pond? Keeping it a secret benefits neither pilot group. Its in all our interests that we know what the other makes. It puts pressure on the cheaper ones to bring up their end of the cost side, and it pressures the more expensive ones to fight harder for better scope (not just JV but for everything).
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Old 07-19-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
FOR GAWD'S SAKE, CAN YA'ALL JUST STOP!

Carl, I love ya dearly man, but I just fast forwarded through 5 or 6 pages of you and the ALPA nitwits duking it out over stuff that has and never will be settled. Trust me, it's you and about 3 guys vs about 3 or 4 ALPA guys.........no one else is reading it. If you haven't noticed, the participation around here is almost nil.

Here's my suggestion..........start a new thread! Call it "Latest and Worse of DALPA" or something like that.

Or, and this is my preference, tell a joke, tell a flying story or two, post some cheerleader picks (remember when you used to do that?)

Look guys, we have a bunch of new guys coming that will need "how to" help just like us NWA guys did a few years ago. We need to clear the decks for that.

JMHO,
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My Ferd, swirling a glass of Jack, speaks for me.

Those of us on APC don't need to know where the battle lines are drawn, we pay attention. No amount of arguing between party lines is going to change anyone's mind. As for me, I'm behind ALPA and Donatelli as we progress to C15. Period.

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Old 07-19-2014, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
Either way how hard can it be to find someone to kick it across the pond? Keeping it a secret benefits neither pilot group. Its in all our interests that we know what the other makes. It puts pressure on the cheaper ones to bring up their end of the cost side, and it pressures the more expensive ones to fight harder for better scope (not just JV but for everything).
As soon as DALPA said they didn't want to give out the information, I found the Air France pay data on the Internet and posted it here. Don't think I could find that post again though.

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Old 07-19-2014, 04:25 PM
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FOR GAWD'S SAKE, CAN YA'ALL JUST STOP!

Carl, I love ya dearly man, but I just fast forwarded through 5 or 6 pages of you and the ALPA nitwits duking it out over stuff that has and never will be settled. Trust me, it's you and about 3 guys vs about 3 or 4 ALPA guys.........no one else is reading it. If you haven't noticed, the participation around here is almost nil.

Here's my suggestion..........start a new thread! Call it "Latest and Worse of DALPA" or something like that.

Or, and this is my preference, tell a joke, tell a flying story or two, post some cheerleader picks (remember when you used to do that?)

Look guys, we have a bunch of new guys coming that will need "how to" help just like us NWA guys did a few years ago. We need to clear the decks for that.

JMHO,
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From another member of the new guy contingent around here you nailed it Ferd! Thanks man!
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:46 PM
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FOR GAWD'S SAKE, CAN YA'ALL JUST STOP!

Carl, I love ya dearly man, but I just fast forwarded through 5 or 6 pages of you and the ALPA nitwits duking it out over stuff that has and never will be settled. Trust me, it's you and about 3 guys vs about 3 or 4 ALPA guys.........no one else is reading it. If you haven't noticed, the participation around here is almost nil.

Here's my suggestion..........start a new thread! Call it "Latest and Worse of DALPA" or something like that.

Or, and this is my preference, tell a joke, tell a flying story or two, post some cheerleader picks (remember when you used to do that?)

Look guys, we have a bunch of new guys coming that will need "how to" help just like us NWA guys did a few years ago. We need to clear the decks for that.

JMHO,
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Fred,

Sincerely, thank you for your post.

Sincerely,
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:48 PM
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From another member of the new guy contingent around here you nailed it Ferd! Thanks man!
Hey New Guys…….



Welcome Aboard !

(It's good to see you on here.)
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