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Old 07-22-2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by duder
Delta cancels all flights to Tel Aviv indefinitely because of rockets near airport.

Delta cancels all Israel flights over missile fear - US News


Good idea.

Edit: Hey Carl, you watching CNBC too ;-)
Quick, make those 747 guys go to 737 school. We're out of pilots. It's half of everything, except brakes, which it has an 8th of and it lands faster ... so you got that going for you.
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is true.

For the few of us who got into this profession because we really enjoy flying, the fact a 737-900 is the latest and greatest at Delta Air Lines soul crushing.
Yes, she's a pig. But, on the bright side of things, due to her limited performance, you get a lot less radiation exposure. We've got that going for us. Which is nice.
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Wait, wait wait. I got this one.....

Didn't we do that in C2K? What happened to them?

Lets say we would reconsider that. Who would we use? Who has USAPA and APA used? Oh yeah that's right the same firm that those who are trying to unseat ALPA uses. Any what did USAPA and APA do with them? That's right, fired them. Who have they used for their consulting work since then? Yep. ALPA E&FA.

Reality is, "outside consultants" sounds like a really good idea, but when you realize that most "law firms" that mask themselves as "consultants" who work for corporate america, will not touch labor because it will cut off their true cash flow, your options get really limited. Their are two outside firms and ALPA E&FA that will truly work with labor. We use ALPA and the best firm, others have used the other and then decided to use our services.
Per T, I wasn't here for 2k so I'm not supposed to have an opinion or voice it. But again, let's discuss what the present is and not go to the old excuse of "well, back when" or "he said this so I said this." Instead, simply look at the possible insight someone from outside the group think could have provided. That and, "You do realize there appear to be some HUGE profits coming the company's way. So I ask again, why are you giving up profit sharing when things are booming?!!!!"

As to only having a handful of options for purely consulting purposes, well, that right there shows the closed mindedness I speak of. I'm not an insider (or outsider) who can provide you with a consultant, but for what we spend on a secretary or two, or a few oil paintings I find it hard to believe another set of eyes for contract language can't be found out there in the U.S.A. But apparently your way is best, which is what ALPA keeps telling us, so case closed. Thanks.
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl;

Read the PWA. It states that at the end of the three year measurement period, the company has one year to cure the deficit. IE, they are not out of compliance until the end of the cure period. No judge or arbitrator is going to side with labor if you file a grievance before the end of the one year measurement period. The non-compliance does not occur until the end of the cure period. Plain and simple.

We can agree or disagree about the language of the PWA and if it does or does not need to be changed, but what that does not do is change the language DAL is contractually held to. There is not non-compliance until the end of the cure period.
OK everybody, get your defibrillators ready. Carl is right about this... sort of. ACL, you are hiding behind legal technicality. What SHOULD be happening is that the lawyers should have the grievance documentation drawn up, and should file it within 10 seconds of the moment that the company is (legally) out of compliance. They should also let the judge know that this paperwork will be inbound so that he can make a ruling as soon as possible. There need be no study. There need be no debate. There need be no committee meetings after that moment. File it. Immediately.

I suggest a stronger voltage on the defibrillators.
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
OK 737 drivers I need some info...... What headsets are popular with the Delta guppy crowd?
Bose: Ungodly expensive, bulky, worth every penny, plan on hearing when retired.
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
OK everybody, get your defibrillators ready. Carl is right about this... sort of. ACL, you are hiding behind legal technicality. What SHOULD be happening is that the lawyers should have the grievance documentation drawn up, and should file it within 10 seconds of the moment that the company is (legally) out of compliance. They should also let the judge know that this paperwork will be inbound so that he can make a ruling as soon as possible. There need be no study. There need be no debate. There need be no committee meetings after that moment. File it. Immediately.

I suggest a stronger voltage on the defibrillators.
Forgot to log off, T?
Old 07-22-2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Per T, I wasn't here for 2k so I'm not supposed to have an opinion or voice it.
Voice all the opinion you want. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and nowhere have I said otherwise. What you don't have a right to is to act all entitled to "restoration".
Old 07-22-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
OK 737 drivers I need some info...... What headsets are popular with the Delta guppy crowd?
Not a 737 guy, but I use Clarity Aloft Pros. PNR vs ANR. No batteries required. They go around the back of the head instead of over your head. Comfortable with glasses. Just throwing it out there so you can take a look if you'd like to.
Old 07-22-2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot[/quote
OK 737 drivers I need some info...... What headsets are popular with the Delta guppy crowd?
Old 07-22-2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Forgot to log off, T?
Hey, I can be reasonable. I can even see your POV occasionally as being correct. (You and I just disagree mostly on methodology) What would really blow my mind would be to see Propaganda Drank post something pro union. (I ain't holding my breath)
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