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TeddyKGB 07-27-2014 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1693052)
Delta1067,

I forgot to mention that you can green slip or white slip a trip over the payback days you used to drop a trip.

Denny


Nice. How did you get all the pay using your payback days and only flying 1 trip? You don't get paid for the trip that gets dropped do you? Also, can you use one PB day to drop an entire 4 day trip?

sinca3 07-27-2014 10:18 AM

How can a case study be made on our EFB'. If we don't even have them? Man this is ridiculous!!

"This case study examines why Delta Air Lines chose the Microsoft Surface 2 as their digital paperwork solution, how Delta implemented the devices, and the ROI of the project."


Delta Uses Microsoft to Transform Flight Operations and the Customer Experience - CNN iReport

forgot to bid 07-27-2014 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1693062)
How can a case study be made on our EFB'. If we don't even have them? Man this is ridiculous!!

"This case study examines why Delta Air Lines chose the Microsoft Surface 2 as their digital paperwork solution, how Delta implemented the devices, and the ROI of the project."


Delta Uses Microsoft to Transform Flight Operations and the Customer Experience - CNN iReport

I wonder what that ROI is right now? :D

DAL 88 Driver 07-27-2014 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1693070)
I wonder what that ROI is right now? :D

Maybe better than the ROI on our bankruptcy concessions?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Denny Crane 07-27-2014 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1693060)
Nice. How did you get all the pay using your payback days and only flying 1 trip? You don't get paid for the trip that gets dropped do you? Also, can you use one PB day to drop an entire 4 day trip?

That's the beauty of it.......you DO get paid for the trip that is dropped with payback days as long as you have enough payback days to cover the entire trip. If you don't have enough payback days to cover it then you get paid for however many days it does cover.

For my 1 to 4 August trip, I used my APD to drop the 4th and then I called scheduling and used payback days to get paid for it. I only dropped one day with the APD and I'm hoping to pick up a 4 day GS starting on the July 29 and getting back on August 1. If I can get it, I will add 14 hours to July plus 3 payback days back in the bank and get 13(X2) hours added to my August total! The reserve coverage wasn't very good and my APD resets in September.

If you only have one payback day, then yes you can drop a four day trip but only get paid for the first day. If you have more than one payback day, the system will automatically take as many payback days as you have to cover the trip. See above for pay.

Denny

gzsg 07-27-2014 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1693070)
I wonder what that ROI is right now? :D

At least we will finally be able to access the internet to view hazardous weather like the little 5 year old passenger sitting behind us.

After all, it is 2014.

TeddyKGB 07-27-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1693081)
That's the beauty of it.......you DO get paid for the trip that is dropped with payback days as long as you have enough payback days to cover the entire trip. If you don't have enough payback days to cover it then you get paid for however many days it does cover.

For my 1 to 4 August trip, I used my APD to drop the 4th and then I called scheduling and used payback days to get paid for it. I only dropped one day with the APD and I'm hoping to pick up a 4 day GS starting on the July 29 and getting back on August 1. If I can get it, I will add 14 hours to July plus 3 payback days back in the bank and get 13(X2) hours added to my August total! The reserve coverage wasn't very good and my APD resets in September.

If you only have one payback day, then yes you can drop a four day trip but only get paid for the first day. If you have more than one payback day, the system will automatically take as many payback days as you have to cover the trip. See above for pay.

Denny

Good to know Denny. Thanks for the answer!

gzsg 07-27-2014 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1693021)
I'm sure it's being dealt with. It's possible that the individual is having some serious personal issues. While certainly a black eye to Delta, it just might end up being the push that sends this guy to PAN. It could save his life. I know it's pure speculation on my part, but the fact that he snapped so easily makes me think something else is going on in his life.

I'm sure you did, but maybe remind her that pilots are human, and we suffer from stress too. Remember the JB pilot who was locked out of the cockpit by his FO? It happens. I just hope that if this guy needs help, this will get it for him.

Perhaps flying 13 days in a row now that we have the benefit of the new and improved FAR 117.

gzsg 07-27-2014 11:12 AM

If you pull back and just look at the money at risk for management.

Millions of dollars per plane.

Hundreds of passengers.

Hundreds of millions in liability.

And.....

No crew meals.

Up to 15 hour duty days not counting waking up and driving to work.

Now 10, 11, 12 days in a row of work.

Is putting our capital at this much risk wise?

Management is playing with fire.

Rhino Driver 07-27-2014 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1693081)
If you only have one payback day, then yes you can drop a four day trip but only get paid for the first day. If you have more than one payback day, the system will automatically take as many payback days as you have to cover the trip. See above for pay.
Denny

Actually, you will get paid the value of the day on which you put the PB day, not necessarily the first day. This bit me a few years back. I believe all credit for the trip applies on the final day as well, so if you have a busy day 4, and a lot of credit time for the trip, you'd want to place your PB day on that day to reap the maximum benefit.


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