Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-31-2014 | 01:28 PM
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But they can hold the 330 so there goes the down hill slide for everyone. The worst thing about this is that the highest paying job in the airline is going away just like the 757 going down to 737 pay. So how is that 85% Pacific flying give away working for us now??? Personally I'm pretty tired of the pro DALPA guys telling us how good things are. This really blows unless there is a follow on Wide body order coming soon. It will be huge stagnation again for a long time. It's a little frustrating seeing our code share partners flying the 787, 777 and 380s around and the company out of compliance. Where the hell is the UNION????
And the whole pay thing is... and has been quite obvious to me for a long long long time. Too bad nobody listens. If I were paid based on longevity, I wouldn't care if I were bumped. Now, I certainly will, and so will a whole lot of other guys.
And there will be a follow on WB order coming, but it is beginning to look like a net wash career earnings wise. I think your stagnation statement is quite over the top though. We are gonna hire a bunch of guys in the coming years. SOMEBODY is going to be moving up, the newhires cannot all be going into the 717/88...
07-31-2014 | 01:46 PM
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07-31-2014 | 02:04 PM
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Well, first of all, the union guys will say that we are not out of compliance... yet. But we will be. The question is how to make us whole without selling those jobs for money. I do not have a good answer for that.
And the whole pay thing is... and has been quite obvious to me for a long long long time. Too bad nobody listens. If I were paid based on longevity, I wouldn't care if I were bumped. Now, I certainly will, and so will a whole lot of other guys.
And there will be a follow on WB order coming, but it is beginning to look like a net wash career earnings wise. I think your stagnation statement is quite over the top though. We are gonna hire a bunch of guys in the coming years. SOMEBODY is going to be moving up, the newhires cannot all be going into the 717/88...
And the whole pay thing is... and has been quite obvious to me for a long long long time. Too bad nobody listens. If I were paid based on longevity, I wouldn't care if I were bumped. Now, I certainly will, and so will a whole lot of other guys.
And there will be a follow on WB order coming, but it is beginning to look like a net wash career earnings wise. I think your stagnation statement is quite over the top though. We are gonna hire a bunch of guys in the coming years. SOMEBODY is going to be moving up, the newhires cannot all be going into the 717/88...
07-31-2014 | 02:05 PM
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Carl, Carl, Carl.... He would have never stooped so low as to work at NWA. He was way too qualified, educated and busy having lunch with former high level delta execs giving him inside information of Deltas plan of ch11 as early as 2001. Makes you wonder why he didn't short the hell out of delta back the. He'd be retired by now. Working for NWA would be like going to a non sked. Delta was the only airline worth leaving ASA for.
07-31-2014 | 02:11 PM
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But they can hold the 330 so there goes the down hill slide for everyone. The worst thing about this is that the highest paying job in the airline is going away just like the 757 going down to 737 pay. So how is that 85% Pacific flying give away working for us now??? Personally I'm pretty tired of the pro DALPA guys telling us how good things are. This really blows unless there is a follow on Wide body order coming soon. It will be huge stagnation again for a long time. It's a little frustrating seeing our code share partners flying the 787, 777 and 380s around and the company out of compliance. Where the hell is the UNION????
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07-31-2014 | 02:28 PM
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07-31-2014 | 02:30 PM
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Yeah all of us younger guys will be moving up in a hurry come 2022! Well that is if the airline stays the same size. I can see the airline shrinking as the number of pilots shrink. Wouldn't that be a b....!
07-31-2014 | 02:32 PM
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07-31-2014 | 02:39 PM
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07-31-2014 | 02:54 PM
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Yesterday was an eye-opener for sure.
I think we need to face facts. Whatever we've been doing to try and preserve our international widebody jobs isn't working. Those jobs are continuing to go away despite our various contract sections and LOAs.
Now Dickson wants to "engage the association" yet again to deal with more displacements off the international fleet.
Every time we engage, we end up worse off.
Maybe its time to disengage. Instead of re-writing our contract whenever management needs something, why don't we try enforcing what we've got?
I am tired of my union being "off the table". (to quote our CEO)
We need to get back in the game.
I think we need to face facts. Whatever we've been doing to try and preserve our international widebody jobs isn't working. Those jobs are continuing to go away despite our various contract sections and LOAs.
Now Dickson wants to "engage the association" yet again to deal with more displacements off the international fleet.
Every time we engage, we end up worse off.
Maybe its time to disengage. Instead of re-writing our contract whenever management needs something, why don't we try enforcing what we've got?
I am tired of my union being "off the table". (to quote our CEO)
We need to get back in the game.
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