And then some. Still very little upward movement. We're losing at the top and growing at the bottom.

 

Haha that scene was the best of that classic movie!

 

Wayne Brady is awesome.

That's what made him on the Dave Chapelle show so funny.

Of course one of the funniest things I saw him in he was just kind of the side act on was Who's Line Was It Anyways and they had Richard Simmons on. Youtube that.

 

We are just so lucky to have this perfect partnership with management.

At the last second they announce the parking of 4 widebody aircraft and don't even give DALPA 24 hours to prepare a response.

We are so lucky to have a pilot member on the BOD. I'm sure he gave the MEC a heads up right away so the MEC chairman could respond to the pilots.

What does it say about our relationship when in the very next breath after throwing DALPA under the bus again, they want to meet for concessions on an early out?

I can tell you what Bob Kehs response would be, but then again I'm a radical, strike loving extremist. I just don't get it.

 

I still haven't seen T's numbers on exactly how LBP would work. I posted a theoretical approach to LBP a few month ago (which he appeared to agree with) that without increasing the current cost of the contract, that the LBP contract would pay every 12 year captian $215 an hour. Not exactly the windfall I think some are expecting.

The fact is for the most part, the larger the aircraft the more it can "afford" to pay. As an example, A 717 and a 757 take of from ATL to JFK.. The 757 will have a much lower pilot casm. (Or just about any other metric than casm you want to use) So if anything, the 757 could actually pay more than it does now and still keep their casm in line with the smaller jets, but on a system wide basis, it keeps our casm in line.

I guess I just don't see how (again assuming current contract costs, increasing it is a whole different topic) that LBP is going to be this great deal as a whole for the pilot group.

Of course it may be the holy grail as well, but I would love for one of the people (T?) to tell me exactly how it would work.

What would be the current 12 year captain and FO rate? (Current contract cost)

If the company started trading 757's for 777's, are we still happy with LBP? (Please be consistent with your argument)

 

Easily. I don't think there were but about 20 more age 65's happening in the remainder of this year, and that's off of all fleets. I just went to the DL Net to look at the category lists. As of Sept. 1 in the 747 category, there are 214 A's and 236 B's.

A 25% reduction means -53.5 A's and -59 B's; a loss of 112.5 top paying jobs.

I don't think an early retirement program is going to draw out 54 Capts. and 59 F/O's.

On DL Net you should read the 747 memo, as well as the Q+A's (link at bottom of story) about the sudden parking of 4 whales, and who's going to fly what/where.

Seems they are going to pull some 777's/A330's (Delta's jets) off the Atlantic routes and use them to cover the parked 747 flying in the Pacific. Guess who's going to pick up the Atlantic flying? Our JV partners. That's what they said...

So, how's that JV Compliance grievance coming?

 

I agree that most won't leave. They don't go to $0, at 60 they get 100% of their pensions, 100% lump sum non qualified money! plus 401k cash they have saved over the last 30 years.


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Funny how no one calls OBAP or BET racist... If you replaced the B with a W, that would raise holy hell in a New York minute... racism is a two-way street.

 

lulz......... welcome to the real world where you have zero control about what airplanes management buys, and how they use them.

 

Again... lulz. Response. You guys are cracking me up with all this angst. And you're right... you still just don't get it.


Oooooooh Mr Kotter... I'm pizzed..... dALPA should complain. Respond....

Just like Demi Moore. I strenuously object.