Explain this to me. How could knowing the name possibly satisfy a witch hunt--if there were one, and what would be the motive for this witch hunt you suggest? How could I or anyone "crucify" the candidate? This is really beginning to sound a little paranoid on your boy's part. How can you condemn the secrecy of those guys who are in office now and yet refuse to divulge such a simple fact? Why the scaredy-cat stance? What does the candidate have to hide? His association with you? I really don't understand the reluctance and more than you understand my desire to know who it is that is campaigning. It's really pretty bizarre.


As for me and my "cadre of politicians?" You are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

FWIW, via the television news, the FAA just announced that it revoked the certificates of the Flight 188 pilots. I haven't seen anything written on the internet yet.

The Wall St Journal is also repoting that. They are the only credible news source I believe that isnt slanted left or right. People want blood on this one. They are doing a great job deferring attention away from the taxiway landing. Kind of like 9-11 to Congressman Condit. He was THE news 9-10. Never heard his name again after that. I will consider myself refreshed on company policy on autopilot monitoring when they have a i-crew pop-up screen.

David Nestor saw this is a good idea. He received a phone call on Sunday from one of the current reps stating exactly what you have an issue with. So here is David Nestor’s part:

David Nestor thought this was a good idea

David Nestor wrote an intra candidate e-mail stating that he thought this was a good idea

David Nestor called Publishing at ALPA National on Oct 19th to check on the legality of this. ALPA National called back stating that there was no issue with this type of document being sent.

David Nestor provided input in to the final appearance on how the final document should be sent out. His exact words were that leaving all the candidates names off of the document would allow there not to be a bias towards the ones who paid or did not pay, and the ones who sent it or who did not hit the send button. IE without political bias

He did not give final approval to National on the wording of the document nor did he give proxy to another person on what to say, how to say it, or what was said.

David Nestor was one of a few candidates that was willing to send it. He in fact did not send it and another candidate sent it to National and gave the final approval. He would have sent it as well, but did not. No one sent this document via proxy from one of the candidates, it was a direct send

National has told our LEC 44 reps (or so it has been told to DN) that DN gave final approval on the document. That is false.

Now to the good part. David Nestor takes responsibility for the fact that no names were on the document. It was his suggestion he gave to the candidates that talked about it. He told you that. He told that to the vice chair. It was not his hand that hit send.

Fact is that no malice was behind it. National was consulted by Nestor to make sure that it was not screwed up and done correctly by all of the candidates. They were aware the document was coming. No one is hiding behind a skirt on this one. No by laws were broken, even though some have said that there will be changes from this.

Fact is that as admitted to you and the vice chair, that your point and area of concern is valid, but that the accusations that Nestor and the other candidates had devious motives behind their actions is false and without merit.

Nestor took your and the vice-chairs words to heart, but not the anger behind it. If another document of this type is done and all of the participating candidates agree to have their answers shard like this one, then your concerns will be discussed about. Point is that Nestor hears your concerns and sees merit in them.

I will add to this:
Nestor as well as a few other candidates see the importance of getting a side by side comparison of the same questions. If you read them everyone that chose to answer steered around or did not steer around a given landmine. My personal opinion is that these are the questions being asked by everyone that sends e-mail to the candidates. It allows access to a lot of pilots. Candidate Nestor seem the importance in that.
He gets that your issue is not the q and a but the "deceitfulness" that you see in it being anonymous. Many of the candidates discussed how to do it. As I stated above, candidate Nestor thought that a lot of the groups/ pilots would see it politically motivated to include a message from the sender(s) when all of the candidates agreed for their answers to be shared. It was decided to not favor any candidate that way, and keep the answers to the same questions by the participating candidates as the only positions in the mailing.
Candidate Nestor saw that adding names to the e-mail as unfair to the ones that were not there. After discussions with you via PM, with the vice-chair and countless others, nothing was done incorrectly. Candidate Nestor sees your point and the merit of it, but did not intend to deceive anyone. The motivation and goals of the mailing were to have the candidates go to the pilots in the form of a q and a where they could make their decisions based on the merit of the answers each candidate provided, not the candidate that sent it, nor the candidates that paid for it.
Politics is ugly and the simple fact is that Candidate Nestor and many other that contributed to this document want the pilots to make an informed decision. Fact is that except for you and the vice chair candidate Nestor's avenues of communication have all been positive. He seeks transparency of the issues that face our union. Do not distort the facts.

As I explained before, knowing "the name" is completely irrelevant and there is no valid reason for a "witch hunt" in the first place. The couple of posters (mainly you) who continue to make such a big deal out of this will have to explain, because I don't see any possible "motive" here other than a purely political attempt to shine some kind of bad light on one or more of the candidates.

If you just can't sleep at night without knowing the name of the person who physically clicked the "send" button (as agreed to by the rest of the candidates who answered), I find it curious that you would come to a public, "anonymous" forum to try and find this piece of irrelevant (but very important to you) information. It sounds a lot more like politically motivated grandstanding to me, rather than an honest fact finding effort.

I am hearing that too!

Why? More displacements? MD-90 arrivals? 777 arrivals? Increased flying out of LGA? Widebody vacancies due to the 2010 summer international push?

Please explain. Pllllllllleeeeeeaaaaaaaase! :p

Look at the recent announcements about the 2010 schedule. The SEA 7ER idea may be back as well.

No details.
Fact is that it will be larger or so they say. What that means is anyone's guess. I am sure that if they move more jets there will be more displacements and awards,

Simply, no idea.