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08-18-2014 | 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

What I find ironic is that the company is so supportive and protective of a union (ALPA) when they are so anti-union with the other employees.

A very astute observation.

08-18-2014 | 05:28 PM

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Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

I think you read into it what you wanted to read into it.

No one's ever done that on this forum!!

08-18-2014 | 05:34 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquare

First, you never...ever... have the right to bring up executive compensation again, if this is truly your feelings. After all, you could have checked CEO on your application, right?

Second... nevermind... this place is really starting to suck.

Translation: Even I am struggling with trying to defend a "union" that is so clearly compromised and not representing pilot interests.

Tough times indeed for the

Carl

08-18-2014 | 05:34 PM

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Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed

Do you support a reduction in company profit sharing in order to gain an hourly pay rate increase when we negotiate Contract 2015?

Personally, I do not. As with my investment portfolio, I am comfortable with a considerable amount of risk. Unless Delta were to offer us some ridiculous amount of pay in return for what is essentially an unlimited profit sharing plan, e.g., something akin to 12-14% APR on a CD, I believe that we are better off accepting the risk of no profit some day in return for higher returns in profitable years.

But that's just me. Others may be more risk averse and prefer the certainty of a higher fixed pay rate. The trick, though, is to ensure that you're not mistaking the pay that you've bought with your profit sharing for an actual increase in compensation.

08-18-2014 | 05:38 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Especially if Carl ever puts his money where his big fat mouth is...

...The maturity level is waning on a seemingly hourly basis.

Did you read your first sentence before you wrote the last sentence?

Carl

08-18-2014 | 05:42 PM

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Purple Drank

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Did you read your first sentence before you wrote the last sentence?

Carl

Careful, you'll make him cry.

His whole life revolves around wearing his LCA lanyard, consuming free muffins and kool-aid at LCA meetings, and bloviating at high volume here on APCF.

He's like a clown on fire; kinda funny, kinda sad.

08-18-2014 | 05:44 PM

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Carl Spackler

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The hacker has been found.

A Tennessee cheerleader is the hacker?

Carl

08-18-2014 | 05:48 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong please.

The forum, for the last few days, has been arguing over a few words from a few paragraphs taken from a 45 minute interview. Let me repeat, a few words from a few paragraphs from a 45 minute interview.

Now, we all know how wonderful the media is at sound bites. Has anyone seen or read the WHOLE 45 minute interview? I do NOT trust the media.

Let's all get the FACTS!!! Then and only then can all of us forum "experts" argue our points. Right now you all look like a bunch of spoiled kids arguing over whose daddy is bigger. Sheesh.

I'm not defending Moak. I would just like to see the whole interview before passing judgment. I know none of us here have ever taken a snippet of a conversation and bashed anyone. ...roll eyes...

08-18-2014 | 05:50 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by johnso29

He's also the attorney who's been FIRED by SWAPA, USAPA, and APA. Himself and his firm have never successfully negotiated a positive contract for any pilot group. Plus, he helped bring the B scale to American. Sounds great!!!

And yet he's beaten ALPA over and over again in court. You'd think ALPA would be able to tear apart an incompetent like this guy.

Carl

08-18-2014 | 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL7ER

Wow. Way to miss the point entirely there Mr. T. I never said a word about executive compensation. Your reading comprehension is what sucks here. I said that our executives negotiate their compensation package, as do we. I asked, when they do, do they factor in the feelings of their non-executive "coworkers" when they make their "demands"? Of course they don't. But, according to you, we should be very concerned about how we are viewed by our non-pilot co-workers when we are seeking contract gains.

There are a LOT of things that we should consider/factor in to the crafting of our opener next spring. How it will affect the "reputation" we have with our non-pilot co-workers, OR how "arrogant" they will view our position should NOT be one of them!!!

Completely agree.

Carl