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Old 08-20-2014 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Mid May RA said "don't be surprised if the WB order is much larger than previously announced" a mix of 350/33N/773/789
Where did he say that?
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
The bolded words are yours genius. It's a common way to responding to just one part of someone's post. I guess I could have responded with a line by line/ word for word response like you do Carl but I'm not that obsessed like you are.
He's not OBsessed... he's POsessed.
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Firstmob had a post that speculated that the RFP was going to be bigger and more eye watering than we think.

I've heard of some non RFP used planes in the works, but nothing about an expanded RFP.
OK, thanks. I think that qualifies.
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
He's not OBsessed... he's POsessed.

Amongst other things.
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Well, I've found the first time ALPA lost a legal battle with Seham. It was in the early 1960's when the pilots of American Airlines were represented by ALPA. The American pilots had set a strike deadline and ALPA national tried to subvert their member pilots at American by cutting off strike benefits, expelling their MEC officers from ALPA, cutting off their funding, then refusing to sign a contract that the American MEC ultimately obtained with management and the NMB.

With very little money left and mounting legal issues being launched by ALPA national against the American MEC, a young Harvard graduate by the name of ... Marty Seham came in to help. ALPA's court injunctions were beaten back. An agreement with management was signed which prevented the strike. A card drive was started to form a new union. The NMB allowed an election to replace ALPA. American pilots voted overwhelmingly to leave ALPA, and have been represented by APA ever since.

A link to this story is below. It's a long read, but a terrific piece of historical record. In fact, it shows me that ALPA national has learned very little in over 50 years:

The Details and Documentation


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An interesting read indeed. It varies a little from the accounts in Flying the Line, but that is not surprising and to be expected. I liked the perspective. I do have a hard time connecting an accomplishment (from over 50 years ago) of Marty, who died in 2006, to establish achievement for his son Lee.
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:38 AM
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You're a dick.
No, you're a dick.
Takes one to know one.
Douche.

You guys are sounding like 10 year olds.
Old 08-20-2014 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
You're a dick.
No, you're a dick.
Takes one to know one.
Douche.

You guys are sounding like 10 year olds.
Where is the ALPA fight thread?

L&G ought to be the tall about anything thread, I'll bump the fight club thread so we can have a place to hash out our thoughts on ALPA and then the C2015 serves its purpose as the place to throw things against the wall.

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Old 08-20-2014 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Well, I don't know if I would accuse people of hiding behind a keyboard unless you're signing your full name to the bottom of your posts. Do that then you can call people out for hiding.
I didn't mean "anonymously" hiding. The same thing would hold true if it were the old ALPA forum where everyone knew everyone else's name. Although I am far from thrilled with everything ALPA, I am also not the one slamming individuals when they are doing a job I apparently am not willing to do.

BTW, it was not directed at you FTB.
Old 08-20-2014 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Or perhaps they believe that such a policy will produce the best income and working conditions for Delta pilots.
Doesn't really matter, I'm just stating what is our current reality. A majority of our reps do not want restoration or defense of our scope language. They prefer dialogue, partnership and cooperation. That's who we've elected.

Carl
Old 08-20-2014 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
I didn't mean "anonymously" hiding. The same thing would hold true if it were the old ALPA forum where everyone knew everyone else's name. Although I am far from thrilled with everything ALPA, I am also not the one slamming individuals when they are doing a job I apparently am not willing to do.

BTW, it was not directed at you FTB.
Fair enough. I was just thinking, we're all anonymous here?

Except you and Carl, since you use your real names. FTB is not my real name, it's what I do.
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