How does scheduling award a WS at 1618/01 for a trip that reports at 1505/01. It is rot 2440 to svo. There are 50 guys on reserve and they are awarding ws rather than use the reserve.

On the plus side the seem to be leaving the guys with less than 4 days alone. No short calls or trips for those short timers. That 0300 short call looks ugly.

From Skynews:

Air Passenger Duty Set For 'Damaging' Rise
5:19am UK, Saturday October 31, 2009

Joe Braidwood, Sky News Online

The cost of air tickets is set to rise tomorrow when the first of two planned increases in airport passenger tax comes into effect.

The air industry is furious at the new tax rises, claiming they are unjustified

The tax increases vary by distance and seat class, ranging from £1 extra for short-haul economy passengers to £30 extra for long-haul premium flyers.

The Government has justified the hikes in Air Passenger Duty (APD) primarily on environmental grounds.

A Treasury spokesman said passengers should pay their fair share in tax, adding the new rates help "the Government achieve its environmental goals".

The increase will see tax for short-haul flights of less than 2,000 miles in economy class rise from £10 to £11 and £20 to £22 for premium classes (e.g. business and first class).

For journeys between 2,001 miles and 4,000 miles, the APD will increase from £40 to £45 for economy and from £80 to £90 for travellers in premium seats.

These proposed increases will not only hurt the aviation industry but also harm the British economy.

- Steve Ridgway, chief executive of Virgin Atlantic Airways

For journeys of 4,001 miles to 6,000 miles, the economy APD goes up from £40 to £50 and the premium from £80 to £100.

For flights of more than 6,000 miles, the economy APD goes up from £40 to £55 and the premium from £80 to £110.

The rise has sparked outrage in the aviation industry, which is already struggling to weather the economic recession as people are flying less to save money.

A spokeswoman for British Airways said the two increases will raise tax on a flight for a family of four to Australia in a year's time by at least £340.

Long flights will be taxed heavily

The November 2010 APD increases will see economy-class passengers on the shortest flights paying £12 - another rise of just £1.

But for premium-class passengers on the longest flights (more than 6,000 miles) APD will soar from the November 2009 figure of £110 to as high as £170 per seat.

Abta chief executive Mark Tanzer said: "Although tomorrow's increase is going ahead, we'll continue our efforts to make the Government see sense on next year's rises, which will be even higher than Sunday's.

"It may well be by then that we have a different political party in power and it will also be even clearer just how damaging these increases are both to the UK economy and those nations worldwide that depend heavily on tourism."

Steve Ridgway, chief executive of Virgin Atlantic Airways, said: "These proposed increases will not only hurt the aviation industry but also harm the British economy and those of many developing countries, like the Caribbean, which heavily rely on the tourism trade.

"It will also tax many hard-working British holidaymakers out of flying altogether."

I read an editorial, and if right, the government isn't even trying to bother to call this a "green tax". It's just a tax. The Brits need money. I heard from a English friend of mine that 70% of their taxes on roads goes to their national health care. So does this tax include Delta flights? If so, without doing the math I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government is making more money then the airline does for a ticket.

They will always award a WS before they give the trip to a reserve.

Found this to be an actual thought out article about our pay.

Airlines: Some Costs They Can't - And Shouldn't - Cut -- Seeking Alpha

Yep, em the facts. Kind of hard to argue that.

I know if I was starting out today, it would be a difficult decision to choose aviation.


2000-2008 Summary Of Change

Hey whats the deal with Atilia? Someone, who loved it, was hammering the cost benefits of it to me while we were flying. As normal, I said "oh, okay, sure, thanks, good to know" but I really just sat there and thought about how half the guys I fly with blow it off. So, since it doesn't know who is actually participating, who is not and the effect of ATC on it, how do they know its doing its job?

I looked on dlnet for more info on it but couldn't find any.

In the test phase they ran it on days with like weather and then would compare the results. I was told they ran over 200 days of test. They split between days where the used the system and days where they did not. Most guys I try and fly with do try and comply. I mean it takes about 30 seconds to figure out and make a speed adjustment. Its not like its something really difficult they are asking.

When you really look at it, the mathematical and logical assumptions they make with the system make it totally impractical and unrealistic.

They can't actually tell who tried to comply with the time- they can't actually tell who hit the time b/c of speed assignments or vectoring, or who tried to comply and couldn't b/c of the same.

Absolutely and completely a waste of money. Don't even get me started on the assumptions they make on the "money saved" figure. That number is a complete fallacy.

You're right Sailing, its not a big deal and it doesn't hurt anything to try and I do whatever the particular Captain wants me to do whether its to try or ignore it.

And I'm sure the test proved a value especially since they knew there was 100% partcipation. But if the number partcipating or trying is unknown then how in the world can they quantify its impact?

Just surprised it says NO ACK REQUIRED, it should have a prompt that says ABLE / UNABLE / ATC UNABLE. ACK REQUIRED. Then they could say, when we have greater than 75% partcipation in the program our on time arrivals increase X% and gate hold times decrease X%.

Otherwise, determining its value is as fuzzy as determining a "job saved."

(sorry to repeat you 80, I was writing while you were posting) :)

I win!! My post had a speed up RTA.:D