Hey Buzz, what to go farther West?

Dude, I love that city.

My bet, you'll fly thanksgiving and Christmas. Thats all I did on ATL ER reserve last year after going full thorttle in the summer in JFK as a line holder. But we didn't have domestic then either.

On the 88, you fly Thanksgiving, Christmas, Saturdays, Sundays, any other holidays, any government holidays and before, during and after banking hours. If you put on your bid request that you prefer off Tuesday and Wednesday, you'll get it! :D And you could request to fly 69.45 hours, you'll get that too. Just don't ask for 70.01 hours, you'll never get it.

Make sure your reps know that no matter how sweet a deal is on paper, that we cannot give up one more seat or one more jet, or one more pound!!!!

What deal?

Possible prodding the union to let 195's fly at DCI while waiting on the C-series.

Not a freaking chance.

Not saying there is a deal, but the fact is that our company is looking at a near term 100 seat fix and a long term 100 seat fix. We need to make sure it is abundantly clear to our guys that any aircraft above the ones currently permitted in section 1 will be flown by mainline. No matter what the deal is on paper.

That is all I am saying. There is some chatter out there because of the a/c size that is needed for LGA that a deal MAY be in the works for a near-term fix for a 100 seat jet.
IMHO the company does not want to stick a E-Series jets here, even the 195 as it is not something that will be around for 10+ years. It would be a patch until the C-Series actually flies, and because of that, they MAY want to have it flown at CPS.
Point is that, as I look over the horizon and connect the dots, this MAY be something that the company MAY ask for and in return we will get an order for a lot of 100 seat jets, with penalties if they cancel it. Point is that it would be allowing outsourcing of flying on a short term basis.

Now I could be off my rocker, but I just wanted to share what MIGHT be a possible answer or solution that some MAY be looking at.
I have heard it as a good rumor and thought I would connect some of the dots and pass it along. That is what this board is for!

Actually, that sounds exactly like something the company would ask for. IMO no matter what the language, it would allow a DCI carrier to get the 100 seat plane out of the barn.

Even if this doesn't happen in the near term, it's a very likely scenario down the road. Maybe not this exact scenario, but I'd be very surprised if the company doesn't try someway to bite into the 100 seat flying with DCI.

Management will continue to try and outsource our jobs until we take a stand on this.

I agree 100%, no more seats, jets or pounds!

Plus 1! Perhaps if the CPS thing had worked we wouldn't be having this possibility facing us. If they want a stop gap before the C-series, lease E195s and we'll fly them at mainline. Go to the desert, bring back the 9s we parked then there is no acquisition costs only HMVs to do and they would be flown within weeks by already trained DAL pilots. And the 9 support comes from a "south" pilot.

Our lack of vision as a union 17 years ago opened this can of worms. We cannot knowingly agree to Volume 2 of this debacle. Stand strong. No negotiation!

On that note: voting ends 10am on November 10th, guys in ATL, remember to vote. You'll hear about voting results tomorrow, and don't you dare say "oh well, I missed it" because thats not our vote. Our vote ends on the 10th. But let tomorrow be a reminder to vote.

+1

You're right, we've already got planes, I do think they're paid for. Pull them out and put them on the line. I don't think anyone will fault the company for trying to get new fancy 100 seat jets to DCI, rather just fault ourselves if WE let it happen. WE = WE, DALS/DALN, old/young, junior/senior, 744/DC9, 777/DC9-88.

However, if you were management, what would you offer to get the bigger Ejets to CPZ? Just a mental exercise for those not challenged. Me, higher pay with stipulations and a rock solid handshake that promises not to furlough.